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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Newsgroup readers.
Date: 7 Feb 2000 06:45:19
Message: <8ED382CDDseed7@204.213.191.228>
Thomas Lake wrote:

>I am thinking of changing newsgroups readers. 
>

Xnews: It's free, it's an online reader (with some offline capabilities, 
or use it in combination with the Hamster news and mail server), a server 
can be listed as often as you want, slrn style scoring etc. I use it and I 
like it.

http://xnews.3dnews.net/

Ingo

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From: Thomas Lake
Subject: Re: Newsgroup readers.
Date: 7 Feb 2000 18:36:19
Message: <389EAEE5.D5C7B804@home.com>
Forget it its nothing important. IE can do it however.

Matt Giwer wrote:

> Thomas Lake wrote:
>
> > No I didn't mean I wanted to run multiple copies of it. What I meant was that I
> > would like to be able to add the same newsgroup server to the program twice.
>
>     Were I writing such software, I have no idea how I would distinguish the two as
> they are the same unless that were a specific option upon adding. And I do not see
> why any rational programmer would want to do that.
>
>     A newserver has a unique internet ID. I would have to alias all IDs to have
> multiple instances of any one. (Not really but not doing so would make it even
> harder.)
>
>     I can go fuirther but bottom line is, I can't see why anyone would write a
> reader doing what you want.
>
>     Which does not mean it is a bad idea. Just what benefits do you see from this?
>
> > I
> > like to have 2 copies of the server one I keep all of my permanent newsgroup
> > subscriptions on. I use the other one when I want to just quickly look at a
> > newsgroup. I find it makes it easier to just brows through a newsgroup and see
> > weather I want to make it a permanent subscription. Strange I know.
>
>     AHHH!! (Maybe?)
>
>     You mean that Netscape does not have a "mark unread" function or an option not
> to mark read at all while browsing and also while not marking read automatically to
> mark specific messages as read while browsing.
>
>     Free Agent has all such  functions.
>
>     Does that address your needs?
>
>     All those are in free agent vice agent for $US29 or some such. Free agent is
> almost embarrassware it gives you nearly everything for nothing.

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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Newsgroup readers.
Date: 7 Feb 2000 19:48:26
Message: <MVGfOBYsTaOGMg8JV8Wf9vK0rePP@4ax.com>
On Mon, 07 Feb 2000 05:10:46 -0500, Matt Giwer <jul### [at] ijnet> wrote:

>> I
>> like to have 2 copies of the server one I keep all of my permanent newsgroup
>> subscriptions on. I use the other one when I want to just quickly look at a
>> newsgroup. I find it makes it easier to just brows through a newsgroup and see
>> weather I want to make it a permanent subscription. Strange I know.

>    Free Agent has all such  functions.

The way Agent and Free Agent is configured for multiple accounts is
simple. You create a separate directory for each account and set it as
a working directory for the shortcut that starts agent.exe . How you
configure each account is your own business so if you want you can
have 20 different copies of the same server running all at once (not
that you would want that :) ) and subscribe to whichever groups you
want to independently. The different copies couldn't care less about
each other. And if for some strange reason one of them crashes, this
doesn't take down the others with it (as NS does).

>    All those are in free agent vice agent for $US29 or some such. Free agent is
>almost embarrassware it gives you nearly everything for nothing.

The biggest plus that I've found in Agent is that it does not lose its
data upon reinstallation. It has survived innumerous re-installs of
95, OSR 2.1, 98 and even NT once without a problem (as opposed to OE
and NS which write so much stuf to the registry it's impossible for
thir data to survive an OS reinstall).

I suggest you check out TUCOWS for the ones rated "five golden cows"
only. There are three or four of them, namely Free Agent, Agent, NS,
OE and I think Gravity (haven't checked lately). All of them have free
versions available for download so decide for yourself.


Peter Popov
pet### [at] usanet
ICQ: 15002700


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From: Peter Warren
Subject: Re: Newsgroup readers.
Date: 8 Feb 2000 09:24:27
Message: <38a0271b@news.povray.org>
Thomas Lake wrote in message <389D424B.313EC217@home.com>...
>I am thinking of changing newsgroups readers.

Valid question.
But P.B.I's?

At least put up a picture.

Peter Warren
war### [at] hotmailcom


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From: Ryan Mooney
Subject: Re: Newsgroup readers.
Date: 8 Feb 2000 15:32:37
Message: <389F2E19.DEE8099@earthlink.net>
My sentiments exactly... But then i am probably jealous cuz my helix
post got only one reply... Witch had nothing to do w/ the actual
picture...

Peter Warren wrote:

> Thomas Lake wrote in message <389D424B.313EC217@home.com>...
> >I am thinking of changing newsgroups readers.
>
> Valid question.
> But P.B.I's?
>
> At least put up a picture.
>
> Peter Warren
> war### [at] hotmailcom


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From: Rudolph Velthuis
Subject: Re: Newsgroup readers.
Date: 9 Feb 2000 18:39:14
Message: <MPG.130bee53b8b03a1a989681@news.povray.org>
Peter Popov wrote...

>The biggest plus that I've found in Agent is that it does not lose its
>data upon reinstallation. It has survived innumerous re-installs of
>95, OSR 2.1, 98 and even NT once without a problem (as opposed to OE
>and NS which write so much stuf to the registry it's impossible for
>thir data to survive an OS reinstall).

FYI, Gravity can do the same. It even has a backup utility that will save 
all settings and newsgroup data to a single file. I used that to move 
from one computer to another.

And Gravity will accepts as many server entries as you like. So what 
Thomas wants is very well possible, but would store all data for that 
server (even if two of them are the same) in a separate folder.
-- 
Rudy Velthuis


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Newsgroup readers.
Date: 10 Feb 2000 06:03:56
Message: <gpqiOKbdvlUAWAvgsZsScg=7U7SE@4ax.com>
On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:29:11 +0100, Rudolph Velthuis
<rve### [at] gmxde> wrote:

>Peter Popov wrote...
>
>>The biggest plus that I've found in Agent is that it does not lose its
>>data upon reinstallation. It has survived innumerous re-installs of
>>95, OSR 2.1, 98 and even NT once without a problem (as opposed to OE
>>and NS which write so much stuf to the registry it's impossible for
>>thir data to survive an OS reinstall).
>
>FYI, Gravity can do the same. It even has a backup utility that will save 
>all settings and newsgroup data to a single file. I used that to move 
>from one computer to another.
>
>And Gravity will accepts as many server entries as you like. So what 
>Thomas wants is very well possible, but would store all data for that 
>server (even if two of them are the same) in a separate folder.

If you've tried Agent as well, can you tell me if I should have chosen
Gravity instead? It's too late now (with almost 500 MB worth of
news.povray.org in Agent format) but still I am interested.


Peter Popov
pet### [at] usanet
ICQ: 15002700


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From: Rudy Velthuis
Subject: Re: Newsgroup readers.
Date: 11 Feb 2000 16:37:25
Message: <MPG.130e9cfd1be49da4989685@news.povray.org>
Peter Popov wrote...

>If you've tried Agent as well, can you tell me if I should have chosen
>Gravity instead? It's too late now (with almost 500 MB worth of
>news.povray.org in Agent format) but still I am interested.

I'm still in doubt. I had first registered Gravity, and used that for a 
long time, until it became slow on large message bases (4000 - 5000 
messages) and when my outbox grew larger. That was on a P90 though.

I moved to Agent (not the free, the registered one), which was quite 
snappy, but missed a lot of the advanced features of Gravity. I saw a new 
version of Gravity, and tried that, and decided to try Gravity for a few 
months. I'm still very satisfied, althiugh it has a few minor bugs (e.g. 
"go to article" goes to wrong one if in a different newsgroup, but 
retrying will fix that). It only should know how to read these 

version).

-- 
Rudy Velthuis


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From: Thomas Lake
Subject: Re: Newsgroup readers.
Date: 11 Feb 2000 20:42:35
Message: <38A41287.9B251871@home.com>
By ISO-89551 characters are you referring to the international standard for
representing every language on earth? I know that Microsoft Office 2K comes
with the fonts for displaying these characters, if they are the same as the
ones you are talking about.

Rudy Velthuis wrote:

> Peter Popov wrote...
>
> >If you've tried Agent as well, can you tell me if I should have chosen
> >Gravity instead? It's too late now (with almost 500 MB worth of
> >news.povray.org in Agent format) but still I am interested.
>
> I'm still in doubt. I had first registered Gravity, and used that for a
> long time, until it became slow on large message bases (4000 - 5000
> messages) and when my outbox grew larger. That was on a P90 though.
>
> I moved to Agent (not the free, the registered one), which was quite
> snappy, but missed a lot of the advanced features of Gravity. I saw a new
> version of Gravity, and tried that, and decided to try Gravity for a few
> months. I'm still very satisfied, althiugh it has a few minor bugs (e.g.
> "go to article" goes to wrong one if in a different newsgroup, but
> retrying will fix that). It only should know how to read these

> version).
>
> --
> Rudy Velthuis

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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Newsgroup readers.
Date: 11 Feb 2000 21:07:48
Message: <jL+kOMB9yBI=1maq5yruipE1AzE3@4ax.com>
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 22:27:18 +0100, Rudy Velthuis <rve### [at] gmxde>
wrote:

>Peter Popov wrote...
>
>>If you've tried Agent as well, can you tell me if I should have chosen
>>Gravity instead? It's too late now (with almost 500 MB worth of
>>news.povray.org in Agent format) but still I am interested.
>
>I'm still in doubt. I had first registered Gravity, and used that for a 
>long time, until it became slow on large message bases (4000 - 5000 
>messages) and when my outbox grew larger. That was on a P90 though.
>
>I moved to Agent (not the free, the registered one), which was quite 
>snappy, but missed a lot of the advanced features of Gravity. I saw a new 
>version of Gravity, and tried that, and decided to try Gravity for a few 
>months. I'm still very satisfied, althiugh it has a few minor bugs (e.g. 
>"go to article" goes to wrong one if in a different newsgroup, but 
>retrying will fix that). It only should know how to read these 

>version).

Thanks, Rudy. This is mose useful info.


Peter Popov
pet### [at] usanet
ICQ: 15002700


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