> Not a pretty picture and it proves I know next to nothing about swords
> but this was just an experiment to see how heightfields could be used
> for engravings.

And hf's are so much faster than text objects, too!

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Hope you don't hate me for saying this... they seem to be made of chalk.
About the engraving stuff, it wouldn't be easy to get a real good look.
'normal' can't do well for all things and any CSG is still going to be difficult
to get placed right.  A height field is the best thing I can think of if you use
a 256 color one without smoothing maybe, you know, so you get those contour
lines on purpose.  Just not sure how you'd go about getting the overall blade
shape in combination with that unless done by CSG and then it wouldn't be easy
again.
Might be plausible to use both a normal bump map though if you also apply a
semi-transparent image map of the same source into the same place. Kind of
enhance the effect maybe.

Bob

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| Not a pretty picture and it proves I know next to nothing about swords
| but this was just an experiment to see how heightfields could be used
| for engravings.
| These are two copies of two copies of a heightfield using waterlevel to
| clip.
|
| Remco


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Bob Hughes wrote:
> 
> Hope you don't hate me for saying this... they seem to be made of
> chalk.

Nope. The first material that comes into my mind when I think of swords
in real life is plastic, as in the toy swords we used to wave around and
that would bend in very unrealistic ways. This might as well have been
plastic. That was not really the point of this pic. I just threw it
together to see if you could decorate (for instance) the blade of a
sword with heightfields.
There's thread about this in the advanced users group (what am _I_ doing
there...) and I got the idea that with a heightfield you could do all
sorts of cute things in a very simple direct way. It turned out that the
blade itself was also quite easy to model with this, although I suspect
there could be all sorts of things wrong with it as it is now but that's
just because I don't really know what I'm doing.
Say, wouldn't it be nice to have (yet) another newsgroup, something like
povray.ignorant.retards? <B> ;) </B>

Remco

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Remco de Korte wrote:

> Say, wouldn't it be nice to have (yet) another newsgroup, something like
> povray.ignorant.retards? <B> ;) </B>

It is no longer politicaly correct to say ignorant retards. To be PC about
it the group should be named povray.intellectualy.challenged.

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Nah, no new group needed.  There's the povray.newusers already.
Hope I didn't just say something wrong.

Bob

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| Remco de Korte wrote:
|
| > Say, wouldn't it be nice to have (yet) another newsgroup, something like
| > povray.ignorant.retards? <B> ;) </B>
|
| It is no longer politicaly correct to say ignorant retards. To be PC about
| it the group should be named povray.intellectualy.challenged.
|
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> > Say, wouldn't it be nice to have (yet) another newsgroup, something like
> > povray.ignorant.retards? <B> ;) </B>
>
> It is no longer politicaly correct to say ignorant retards. To be PC about
> it the group should be named povray.intellectualy.challenged.

I'm not sure even *that* is PC. How 'bout just povray.ignorant...

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Politics change, and so do PC phrases. Just be polite
and hope for the best.

Ken wrote:
> 
> Remco de Korte wrote:
> 
> > Say, wouldn't it be nice to have (yet) another newsgroup, something like
> > povray.ignorant.retards? <B> ;) </B>
> 
> It is no longer politicaly correct to say ignorant retards. To be PC about
> it the group should be named povray.intellectualy.challenged.
> 
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> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/

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"mr.art" wrote:
> 
> Politics change, and so do PC phrases. Just be polite
> and hope for the best.

My mother was a school teacher in the late 60's through the seventies.
In the earlier years they had a special ed class for retarded children.
Then sometime around '68 or '69 a memorandum came down from the states
department of education that declared that these children were no longer
to be referred to as retarded as it was considered a derogatory label.
They were to be referred to in the school system as the academically
challenged. The programs that they attended were to be called special
education programs as opposed to classes for the retarded.

You can change the label on the package but the contents are the same
so you are right be polite.

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Special Ed class... I remember that in high school.  No, I didn't attend, just
tried visiting the room a couple times and it was like I was an outcast.  Think
I knew someone, or two, that was going there.  Those people were not going to
have me around being sociable with them before class started.  I kind of felt I
was being given the cold shoulder there (heh, they were telling me to leave), an
experience in personality conflict it was.  Or maybe it was just that I had my
own class to go to and at the time I was the typical interloper of the
adolescent bracket.
This isn't going OT is it? <big grin>

Bob

"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
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|
| "mr.art" wrote:
| >
| > Politics change, and so do PC phrases. Just be polite
| > and hope for the best.
|
| My mother was a school teacher in the late 60's through the seventies.
| In the earlier years they had a special ed class for retarded children.
| Then sometime around '68 or '69 a memorandum came down from the states
| department of education that declared that these children were no longer
| to be referred to as retarded as it was considered a derogatory label.
| They were to be referred to in the school system as the academically
| challenged. The programs that they attended were to be called special
| education programs as opposed to classes for the retarded.
|
| You can change the label on the package but the contents are the same
| so you are right be polite.
|
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> My mother was a school teacher in the late 60's through the seventies.
> In the earlier years they had a special ed class for retarded children.
> Then sometime around '68 or '69 a memorandum came down from the states
> department of education that declared that these children were no longer
> to be referred to as retarded as it was considered a derogatory label.
> They were to be referred to in the school system as the academically
> challenged. The programs that they attended were to be called special
> education programs as opposed to classes for the retarded.

I remember at my K-3 school they changed the name of the program from SIMS
to PALS. I'm not sure what they stand for though.

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