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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Martian Dust Storm: or is it Jupiter? ~34KB
Date: 19 Jan 2000 16:00:45
Message: <388625fd@news.povray.org>
I've tried and tried to get these "dust clouds" to look okay and still end up
with them not passing inspection.  Going from originally 320x240 res. to this
larger size didn't help the looks any.  Well as you will see it looks more like
a very thickened atmosphere rather than a very thin one, or so I'd say anyhow.
Then there's the blobs just not fitting in right, and the media patterns keep me
one step behind too.
  Sorry, I shouldn't bother anyone with my dissatisfaction.  I'll leave that up
to you... figured I could at least show what else I've been doing.

Bob
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From: Remco de Korte
Subject: Re: Martian Dust Storm: or is it Jupiter? ~34KB
Date: 19 Jan 2000 16:43:32
Message: <38862F6D.82CBF897@xs4all.nl>
Bob Hughes wrote:
> 
>   I've tried and tried to get these "dust clouds" to look okay and
> still end up
> with them not passing inspection.  Going from originally 320x240 res.
> to this
> larger size didn't help the looks any.  Well as you will see it looks
> more like
> a very thickened atmosphere rather than a very thin one, or so I'd say
> anyhow.
> Then there's the blobs just not fitting in right, and the media
> patterns keep me
> one step behind too.
>   Sorry, I shouldn't bother anyone with my dissatisfaction.  I'll
> leave that up
> to you... figured I could at least show what else I've been doing.
> 
> Bob
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I think you should see this as an animation and I think you should judge
it from an animation. In a still it may look all wrong while animated it
may blow you off your socks (it being a storm...).
I can see some things wrong in this pic but I don't know how it compares
to the ones in your clips.

Remco


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From: Josh English
Subject: Re: Martian Dust Storm: or is it Jupiter? ~34KB
Date: 19 Jan 2000 17:58:28
Message: <38864179.8E126838@spiritone.com>
Hmm... I can see to many artifacts here that were "invisible" in the animation. The
animation is great, but for a still, I'd see if you could hide the container objects
better.
The dust storm is otherwise great. If you detail the ship and make it larger, and
change the orientation of theimage to be portrait instead of landscape, it would be
a great follow up to Scott McDonalds piece he did for the IRTC way back with a dead
astronaut and an old fashioned space ship on the surface of mars. He turned it into
a magazine cover, and I say you've set up the sequel here!
The post in p.b.i is "That Astronaut Thing Again" dated 2/7/99, and maybe this link
will work (i'm feeling experimental)
 news://news.povray.org/36BDE616.E3081473%40metrolink.com

Bob Hughes wrote:

>   I've tried and tried to get these "dust clouds" to look okay and still end up
> with them not passing inspection.  Going from originally 320x240 res. to this
> larger size didn't help the looks any.  Well as you will see it looks more like
> a very thickened atmosphere rather than a very thin one, or so I'd say anyhow.
> Then there's the blobs just not fitting in right, and the media patterns keep me
> one step behind too.
>   Sorry, I shouldn't bother anyone with my dissatisfaction.  I'll leave that up
> to you... figured I could at least show what else I've been doing.
>
> Bob
> --
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>
>  [Image]

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From: Margus Ramst
Subject: Re: Martian Dust Storm: or is it Jupiter? ~34KB
Date: 19 Jan 2000 17:58:38
Message: <38864212.30345C9A@peak.edu.ee>
Looks like it would make a great tsunami, but I really don't know if this is
what a dust storm would look like. Geat colour scheme though.
The object boundaries are too visible.

Margus

Bob Hughes wrote:
> 
>   I've tried and tried to get these "dust clouds" to look okay and still end up
> with them not passing inspection.  Going from originally 320x240 res. to this
> larger size didn't help the looks any.  Well as you will see it looks more like
> a very thickened atmosphere rather than a very thin one, or so I'd say anyhow.
> Then there's the blobs just not fitting in right, and the media patterns keep me
> one step behind too.
>   Sorry, I shouldn't bother anyone with my dissatisfaction.  I'll leave that up
> to you... figured I could at least show what else I've been doing.
> 
> Bob
> --
>        omniVerse: "Not all really, and not all good at that."
>  http://users.aol.com/inversez/  (Home)  http://users.aol.com/xyzunknown/
> (Links)
>  http://users.aol.com/iotadot/  (Gallery)  http://users.aol.com/persistenceofv/
> (Anims)
> 
>  [Image]


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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Martian Dust Storm: or is it Jupiter? ~34KB
Date: 19 Jan 2000 20:23:23
Message: <388660F4.5724049C@faricy.net>
The container objects are too visible. It would make a most excellent aurora
borealis though!

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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Martian Dust Storm: or is it Jupiter? ~34KB
Date: 20 Jan 2000 03:58:34
Message: <3886ce3a@news.povray.org>
"David Fontaine" <dav### [at] faricynet> wrote in message
news:388660F4.5724049C@faricy.net...
| It would make a most excellent aurora borealis though!
|

Oh-oh...  That's not good then.  For this anyway.

Bob


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Tiny Martian Dust Storm ~5KB
Date: 20 Jan 2000 04:16:30
Message: <3886d26e@news.povray.org>
The smaller resolution animations are helped a lot by causing the inability to
observe so much of the true nature of it.  Make this thing postage stamp sized
and you'd believe you were there (maybe).
The vehicle is supposed to be seen closer another time so I do need to pay
attention to that too.
Main thing I have to get right is the thin air dust transportation effect, I'm
clueless there but trying to figure it out.  Might have to dig out my artistic
license from the old cedar chest, figuratively speaking.
Hey, wish I could link to old postings, never figured out how to do it.
Curiously Scott McD. had said he was going to remove that astronaut picture and
obviously didn't.  I remembered that one well, except for it being a Canadian
astronaut.

P.S. tiny rendition attached.

Bob

"Josh English" <eng### [at] spiritonecom> wrote in message
news:38864179.8E126838@spiritone.com...
| Hmm... I can see to many artifacts here that were "invisible" in the
animation. The
| animation is great, but for a still, I'd see if you could hide the container
objects
| better.
| The dust storm is otherwise great. If you detail the ship and make it larger,
and
| change the orientation of theimage to be portrait instead of landscape, it
would be
| a great follow up to Scott McDonalds piece he did for the IRTC way back with a
dead
| astronaut and an old fashioned space ship on the surface of mars. He turned it
into
| a magazine cover, and I say you've set up the sequel here!
| The post in p.b.i is "That Astronaut Thing Again" dated 2/7/99, and maybe this
link
| will work (i'm feeling experimental)
|  news://news.povray.org/36BDE616.E3081473%40metrolink.com
|


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From: Philip Bartol
Subject: Re: Martian Dust Storm: or is it Jupiter? ~34KB
Date: 20 Jan 2000 07:57:29
Message: <38870639@news.povray.org>
In article <388625fd@news.povray.org>, "Bob Hughes"
<per### [at] aolcom?subject=PoV-News:> wrote:
>  I've tried and tried to get these "dust clouds" to look okay and still end up
>with them not passing inspection.  Going from originally 320x240 res. to this

Hey, looks cool, but it couldn't be Jupiter... Jupiter has no ground surface, 
it's a "gas" giant....

PHIL

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Martian Dust Storm: or is it Jupiter? ~34KB
Date: 20 Jan 2000 08:01:55
Message: <388704AD.A9F9CA21@pacbell.net>
Philip Bartol wrote:

> 
> Hey, looks cool, but it couldn't be Jupiter... Jupiter has no ground surface,
> it's a "gas" giant....

Yes a Martian dust storm on Jupiter would be a strange thing indeed...

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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Martian Dust Storm: or is it Jupiter? ~34KB
Date: 20 Jan 2000 10:00:54
Message: <38872326@news.povray.org>
I meant nearer the upper atmosphere rather than nearer to a ground level.
Jupiter does have a surface at some depth though no doubt where the density of
the gases coalesce into liquids and then perhaps solids.  Just don't ask me to
go and make sure.

Bob

"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
news:388704AD.A9F9CA21@pacbell.net...
|
|
| Philip Bartol wrote:
|
| >
| > Hey, looks cool, but it couldn't be Jupiter... Jupiter has no ground
surface,
| > it's a "gas" giant....
|
| Yes a Martian dust storm on Jupiter would be a strange thing indeed...
|
| --
| Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
| http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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