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For some reason, the firewall here will not allow inline images.
I can only see the ones that are put as attachments.
<br>It says the article has expired on all messages with inline images.
<p>Please, if you can attach, don't paste.
<br>
<br>
<p>--
<br>Bryan Valencia
<br>Software Services
<br><A HREF="http://www.209software.com">http://www.209software.com</A>
<br><A HREF="mailto:bry### [at] 209software com">mailto:bry### [at] 209softwarecom</A>
<p>- "the gravest lie about Y2K matters, is that your company can,
<br>through the acquisition of affidavits of compliance, protect
<br>itself against harm, whether real or litigated. It can't.
<p>This faith in legal documents is hollow and in fact dangerous.
<br>The wisest course of action is for you to immediately disabuse
<br>yourself of this deceit."
<p>- from <A
HREF="http://language.perl.com/news/y2k.html">http://language.perl.com/news/y2k.html</A>
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I never do...
grtnx
daVeX
Bryan Valencia wrote:
> For some reason, the firewall here will not allow inline images. I
> can only see the ones that are put as attachments.
> It says the article has expired on all messages with inline images.
>
> Please, if you can attach, don't paste.
>
>
>
> --
> Bryan Valencia
> Software Services
> http://www.209software.com
> mailto:bry### [at] 209softwarecom
>
> - "the gravest lie about Y2K matters, is that your company can,
> through the acquisition of affidavits of compliance, protect
> itself against harm, whether real or litigated. It can't.
>
> This faith in legal documents is hollow and in fact dangerous.
> The wisest course of action is for you to immediately disabuse
> yourself of this deceit."
>
> - from http://language.perl.com/news/y2k.html
>
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For some reason your post is in HTML, and HTML is generally frowned upon. As for
inline images, theese are also made in HTML, and if everyone stopped and went
for text we wouldn't have problems :-)
>>>>>>
Subject: Humble request
Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
<<<<<<
Bryan Valencia wrote:
>
> For some reason, the firewall here will not allow inline images. I can only
> see the ones that are put as attachments.
> It says the article has expired on all messages with inline images.
>
> Please, if you can attach, don't paste.
>
>
>
> --
> Bryan Valencia
> Software Services
> http://www.209software.com
> mailto:bry### [at] 209softwarecom
>
> - "the gravest lie about Y2K matters, is that your company can,
> through the acquisition of affidavits of compliance, protect
> itself against harm, whether real or litigated. It can't.
>
> This faith in legal documents is hollow and in fact dangerous.
> The wisest course of action is for you to immediately disabuse
> yourself of this deceit."
>
> - from http://language.perl.com/news/y2k.html
>
--
//Spider
[ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
"Marian"
By: "Sisters Of Mercy"
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HTML? I have mine set to plain text and it STILL pastes the inline images!
Argh, I use Outlook Express and I REALLY like it. Anyone have any ideas?
-Ian
Spider <spi### [at] bahnhofse> wrote in message
news:371F89CB.3955F6A6@bahnhof.se...
> For some reason your post is in HTML, and HTML is generally frowned upon.
As for
> inline images, theese are also made in HTML, and if everyone stopped and
went
> for text we wouldn't have problems :-)
>
>
> >>>>>>
> Subject: Humble request
> Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> <<<<<<
>
> Bryan Valencia wrote:
> >
> > For some reason, the firewall here will not allow inline images. I can
only
> > see the ones that are put as attachments.
> > It says the article has expired on all messages with inline images.
> >
> > Please, if you can attach, don't paste.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bryan Valencia
> > Software Services
> > http://www.209software.com
> > mailto:bry### [at] 209softwarecom
> >
> > - "the gravest lie about Y2K matters, is that your company can,
> > through the acquisition of affidavits of compliance, protect
> > itself against harm, whether real or litigated. It can't.
> >
> > This faith in legal documents is hollow and in fact dangerous.
> > The wisest course of action is for you to immediately disabuse
> > yourself of this deceit."
> >
> > - from http://language.perl.com/news/y2k.html
> >
>
> --
> file://Spider
> [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
> What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
> "Marian"
> By: "Sisters Of Mercy"
>
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Netscape.
Ian Burgmyer wrote:
>
> HTML? I have mine set to plain text and it STILL pastes the inline images!
> Argh, I use Outlook Express and I REALLY like it. Anyone have any ideas?
>
> -Ian
>
> Spider <spi### [at] bahnhofse> wrote in message
> news:371F89CB.3955F6A6@bahnhof.se...
> > For some reason your post is in HTML, and HTML is generally frowned upon.
> As for
> > inline images, theese are also made in HTML, and if everyone stopped and
> went
> > for text we wouldn't have problems :-)
> >
> >
> > >>>>>>
> > Subject: Humble request
> > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > <<<<<<
> >
> > Bryan Valencia wrote:
> > >
> > > For some reason, the firewall here will not allow inline images. I can
> only
> > > see the ones that are put as attachments.
> > > It says the article has expired on all messages with inline images.
> > >
> > > Please, if you can attach, don't paste.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bryan Valencia
> > > Software Services
> > > http://www.209software.com
> > > mailto:bry### [at] 209softwarecom
> > >
> > > - "the gravest lie about Y2K matters, is that your company can,
> > > through the acquisition of affidavits of compliance, protect
> > > itself against harm, whether real or litigated. It can't.
> > >
> > > This faith in legal documents is hollow and in fact dangerous.
> > > The wisest course of action is for you to immediately disabuse
> > > yourself of this deceit."
> > >
> > > - from http://language.perl.com/news/y2k.html
> > >
> >
> > --
> > file://Spider
> > [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
> > What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
> > "Marian"
> > By: "Sisters Of Mercy"
> >
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hardly helpfull,
> Netscape.
hardly helpfull, well i suppose some one had to mention that pile of ****
(from personal experience as a web designer, i have to put in extra hours to
get a page looking correct on netscape, and when im being paid by job, thats
the last thing i want.)
What version of Oulook exp are you using IE3-4 or IE5?
Rick
>
> Ian Burgmyer wrote:
> >
> > HTML? I have mine set to plain text and it STILL pastes the inline
images!
> > Argh, I use Outlook Express and I REALLY like it. Anyone have any
ideas?
> >
> > -Ian
> >
> > Spider <spi### [at] bahnhofse> wrote in message
> > news:371F89CB.3955F6A6@bahnhof.se...
> > > For some reason your post is in HTML, and HTML is generally frowned
upon.
> > As for
> > > inline images, theese are also made in HTML, and if everyone stopped
and
> > went
> > > for text we wouldn't have problems :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > >>>>>>
> > > Subject: Humble request
> > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
> > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > > <<<<<<
> > >
> > > Bryan Valencia wrote:
> > > >
> > > > For some reason, the firewall here will not allow inline images. I
can
> > only
> > > > see the ones that are put as attachments.
> > > > It says the article has expired on all messages with inline images.
> > > >
> > > > Please, if you can attach, don't paste.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Bryan Valencia
> > > > Software Services
> > > > http://www.209software.com
> > > > mailto:bry### [at] 209softwarecom
> > > >
> > > > - "the gravest lie about Y2K matters, is that your company can,
> > > > through the acquisition of affidavits of compliance, protect
> > > > itself against harm, whether real or litigated. It can't.
> > > >
> > > > This faith in legal documents is hollow and in fact dangerous.
> > > > The wisest course of action is for you to immediately disabuse
> > > > yourself of this deceit."
> > > >
> > > > - from http://language.perl.com/news/y2k.html
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > file://Spider
> > > [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
> > > What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
> > > "Marian"
> > > By: "Sisters Of Mercy"
> > >
>
>
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I use 'Scape, the same version at work and at home. It works 100% here at home,
but It will not download messages with inline images at work. It's probably the
firewall...
It is, as they say in Russia "No Biggyeh" I can view at home... That's why it's
a "humble" request.
--
Bryan Valencia
Software Services
Software Services Home Page http://www.209software.com
Pascal for Delphi Programmers http://www.209software.com/p4dp/Book.html
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IE5. . .I think I got it working right though. . .
I'll try when I post my third image. . .hehehe
-Ian
Rick (Kitty5) <kit### [at] dialpipexcom> wrote in message
news:372443f2.0@news.povray.org...
> hardly helpfull,
> > Netscape.
> hardly helpfull, well i suppose some one had to mention that pile of ****
> (from personal experience as a web designer, i have to put in extra hours
to
> get a page looking correct on netscape, and when im being paid by job,
thats
> the last thing i want.)
>
> What version of Oulook exp are you using IE3-4 or IE5?
>
> Rick
> >
> > Ian Burgmyer wrote:
> > >
> > > HTML? I have mine set to plain text and it STILL pastes the inline
> images!
> > > Argh, I use Outlook Express and I REALLY like it. Anyone have any
> ideas?
> > >
> > > -Ian
> > >
> > > Spider <spi### [at] bahnhofse> wrote in message
> > > news:371F89CB.3955F6A6@bahnhof.se...
> > > > For some reason your post is in HTML, and HTML is generally frowned
> upon.
> > > As for
> > > > inline images, theese are also made in HTML, and if everyone stopped
> and
> > > went
> > > > for text we wouldn't have problems :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > Subject: Humble request
> > > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
> > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > > > <<<<<<
> > > >
> > > > Bryan Valencia wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > For some reason, the firewall here will not allow inline images.
I
> can
> > > only
> > > > > see the ones that are put as attachments.
> > > > > It says the article has expired on all messages with inline
images.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please, if you can attach, don't paste.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Bryan Valencia
> > > > > Software Services
> > > > > http://www.209software.com
> > > > > mailto:bry### [at] 209softwarecom
> > > > >
> > > > > - "the gravest lie about Y2K matters, is that your company can,
> > > > > through the acquisition of affidavits of compliance, protect
> > > > > itself against harm, whether real or litigated. It can't.
> > > > >
> > > > > This faith in legal documents is hollow and in fact dangerous.
> > > > > The wisest course of action is for you to immediately disabuse
> > > > > yourself of this deceit."
> > > > >
> > > > > - from http://language.perl.com/news/y2k.html
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > file://Spider
> > > > [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
> > > > What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
> > > > "Marian"
> > > > By: "Sisters Of Mercy"
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>
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"Rick (Kitty5)" wrote:
> hardly helpfull,
> > Netscape.
> hardly helpfull, well i suppose some one had to mention that pile of ****
> (from personal experience as a web designer, i have to put in extra hours to
> get a page looking correct on netscape, and when im being paid by job, thats
> the last thing i want.)
>
Well, actually it is usually the other way around. MSIE is the one not
following specs and causing problems. Especially in the context of this thread,
Outlook/Exchange can cause major problems when sending to Netscape, not because
of anything on the Netscape end but because of Netscape following the Internet
specs & RFC's and MS sending piles of '****' out. As a developer, having to put
in extra hours to help MIS figure out what's happening to our mail and why
parts are not showing up is the last thing I want. Sigh.
For HTML in mail, Netscape has a tendency just to put out "bad style" HTML,
whereas Outlook/Outlook Express actually puts out broken/illegal HTML But that
should be a moot point, as people should post in plain text and attatch images.
(BTW Ian, for Outlook I believe that you need to avoid pasting the images if
you want them not to be inlined. Look for an actual 'attatch' command/menu
item.)
(BTW, Better info on web page building issues can be had from
http://www.htmlhelp.com/ Reading there can help save you headaches in your
work)
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I fully agree with you on the HTML email problems of both browsers, neither
seem to have got it quite right, however at least IE5/Outlook now allows to
to hand edit the HTML source of your HTML email.
but on the whole, I only send HTML email to ppl who i know use the same
software as i do, and HTML email to NG's is a waste of bytes (for
everybody!).
Thanks for the link, it will come in usefull, I do my best to stick to HTML
3.2 when writing web pages, but even then, especially when using complex
nested tables, or *choke* frames, MSIE translates my code litrally, netscape
seems to add a few extra pixels here and there, which can be a real pain to
fix.
for example a page I am working on now is ~2kb larger than it should be just
for fix the anomalies NC introduces, and make the pages 100% identical on
both browsers, and on a site which my go up to 200+ pages, that little bit
extra soon mounts up.
It might well be that MSIE translates quickly written/sloppy code better
then NC which sticks ridigly to the standards, but when it means, extra work
for the developer (me) and extra time downloading (you) i know which i
prefere!
However, unlike some webmasters, at least i take the time to ensure that it
works best on both, istead on inisting that the user goes and gets 'the
other browser'!
Rick
Jon A. Cruz <jon### [at] geocitiescom> wrote in message
news:3726996C.BC7DF97E@geocities.com...
> "Rick (Kitty5)" wrote:
>
> > hardly helpfull,
> > > Netscape.
> > hardly helpfull, well i suppose some one had to mention that pile of
****
> > (from personal experience as a web designer, i have to put in extra
hours to
> > get a page looking correct on netscape, and when im being paid by job,
thats
> > the last thing i want.)
> >
>
> Well, actually it is usually the other way around. MSIE is the one not
> following specs and causing problems. Especially in the context of this
thread,
> Outlook/Exchange can cause major problems when sending to Netscape, not
because
> of anything on the Netscape end but because of Netscape following the
Internet
> specs & RFC's and MS sending piles of '****' out. As a developer, having
to put
> in extra hours to help MIS figure out what's happening to our mail and why
> parts are not showing up is the last thing I want. Sigh.
>
> For HTML in mail, Netscape has a tendency just to put out "bad style"
HTML,
> whereas Outlook/Outlook Express actually puts out broken/illegal HTML But
that
> should be a moot point, as people should post in plain text and attatch
images.
> (BTW Ian, for Outlook I believe that you need to avoid pasting the images
if
> you want them not to be inlined. Look for an actual 'attatch' command/menu
> item.)
>
>
> (BTW, Better info on web page building issues can be had from
> http://www.htmlhelp.com/ Reading there can help save you headaches in your
> work)
>
>
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