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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Nanotech
Date: 7 Apr 1999 18:55:32
Message: <370BD323.7A1BB5C1@pacbell.net>
Spider wrote:
> 

> Cybepunk books that hooked me... Jhonny Mnemonic... idoru... Darn, my memory...
> max_memory_level <15 minutes... *gah*
> Was it Grisham... noooo.. that was the one with the dinosaurs(and some other
> good ones)... darn this, off to quake and gib some monsters in frustration..
> waaaiit... gib, gib, gibson... william Gibson, thats it :-)
> 
> Well, sorry about my waste of splace,but I'm frustrated and bored.. lost a lot
> of work in a crash.

Gibson is about as far out there in the future as Michael Moorcock
is out there in the past. Both extreme on the edge authors and fun
for that light sunday afternoon reading material.

-- 
Ken Tyler

mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net


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From: Charles Krause
Subject: Re: Nanotech
Date: 7 Apr 1999 19:00:10
Message: <370bd56a.0@news.povray.org>
>I was just going to say how real can you get with a machine that was not
>even built yet.  No I modelled it after an article I read in Discovery
>Magazine.  Thanks for th input though.


Exactly my point - which is why I said it wasn't really a problem :) But if
you are interested in modeling actual nanomacines designs (even if we don't
have the microconstuction techniques to BUILD them yet), check out the
Foresight Institute.


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Nanotech
Date: 7 Apr 1999 19:25:57
Message: <370BDA12.B9256045@bahnhof.se>
portelli wrote:
> 
> No I read Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman, The Dragonlance books
Read it. Good, but they need a better editor.


> Tad Williams. 
he is good.
Simon Mooncalf :-)

> Read Tad Williams,
Yup
> he has a new series out that is awesome.  T can't remember the name but the
> latest book is call River of  Blue Fire.  Otherland thats it.  Good stuff. 
> About future internet.
I'll take a peek.

well, while we are on the books, Elizabeth Hand  - The Glimmering 
Read it.



-- 
//Spider
        [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
                "Marian"
        By: "Sisters Of Mercy"


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Nanotech
Date: 7 Apr 1999 19:50:28
Message: <370BE045.BD9574DE@bahnhof.se>
Ken wrote:
> 
> Gibson is about as far out there in the future as Michael Moorcock
> is out there in the past. Both extreme on the edge authors and fun
> for that light sunday afternoon reading material.
Yes, they are good authors, and interesting to read when feeling tired after
watching a three hour parse crash on you... (hate windoze) 

 

-- 
//Spider
        [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
                "Marian"
        By: "Sisters Of Mercy"


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Nanotech
Date: 7 Apr 1999 20:48:26
Message: <370BE6AC.3875AF3F@ndirect.co.uk>
Maybe in reality you shouldn't look at it at all.

If god ment us to see how our bodies work at a
molecular scale he would have given us
miscroscopes for eyes.

And NO I don't believe in God.

Steve

Spider wrote:
> 
> I remember this :-)
> 
> It has improved a lot... hmm, how _did_ they get the coloured cross on that?
> It must be rather small... *grin* (pencil and microscope?, nah)
> 
> it really looks good from my POV, but then, I don't know how it should look like
> in reality(*shudder*)
> 
> portelli wrote:
> >
> >         Well I don't know how this compares to some of the posts here, I'll let
> > you decide.  Mostly this is to help me learn the finer parts of POVRAY.
> > Everything is a primitive.  I mean no modellers were used.  I noticed
> > that my media is making some black lines though.  Do your worst.
> >
> >   --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  [Image]
> 
> --
> //Spider
>         [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
> What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
>                 "Marian"
>         By: "Sisters Of Mercy"


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Nanotech
Date: 7 Apr 1999 20:48:27
Message: <370BE8EA.32BC0463@ndirect.co.uk>
Hang on!   Hang on!

As I answered to a post I saw earlier today: The
future isn't all that it's cracked up to be.

	<indentation just for Ken>  We still have
beggars/homeless people in the cities where we
live, we still have children/young adults leaving
school not being able to read or wrighte.  There's
a vicious war in Kosovo, it hasn't rained in some
parts of Ethiopia for about 15 years.  

  As I said the future it's for the imaginative, 
I've read Gibson and all the rest, and who would
have thought in the seventies when video came out
that cinema would be so popular now.  

Think again chaps and chapesses,  Machines are
rubish, they break down and need humans to fix
them.

Don't have bad dreams.

Steve

Spider wrote:
> 
> portelli wrote:
> >
> > No I read Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman, The Dragonlance books
> Read it. Good, but they need a better editor.
> 
> > Tad Williams.
> he is good.
> Simon Mooncalf :-)
> 
> > Read Tad Williams,
> Yup
> > he has a new series out that is awesome.  T can't remember the name but the
> > latest book is call River of  Blue Fire.  Otherland thats it.  Good stuff.
> > About future internet.
> I'll take a peek.
> 
> well, while we are on the books, Elizabeth Hand  - The Glimmering
> Read it.
> 
> --
> //Spider
>         [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
> What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
>                 "Marian"
>         By: "Sisters Of Mercy"


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Nanotech
Date: 7 Apr 1999 21:13:04
Message: <370BF3A2.D2361478@bahnhof.se>
Hehe, Before I noted the last line, I was about 
to make some severe remarks..
but then, why not look at it, it looks good :-)

Steve wrote:
> 
> Maybe in reality you shouldn't look at it at all.
> 
> If god ment us to see how our bodies work at a
> molecular scale he would have given us
> miscroscopes for eyes.
> 
> And NO I don't believe in God.
> 
> Steve
> 
> Spider wrote:
> >
> > I remember this :-)
> >
> > It has improved a lot... hmm, how _did_ they get the coloured cross on that?
> > It must be rather small... *grin* (pencil and microscope?, nah)
> >
> > it really looks good from my POV, but then, I don't know how it should look like
> > in reality(*shudder*)
> >
> > portelli wrote:
> > >
> > >         Well I don't know how this compares to some of the posts here, I'll let
> > > you decide.  Mostly this is to help me learn the finer parts of POVRAY.
> > > Everything is a primitive.  I mean no modellers were used.  I noticed
> > > that my media is making some black lines though.  Do your worst.
> > >
> > >  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >  [Image]
> >
> > --
> > //Spider
> >         [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
> > What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
> >                 "Marian"
> >         By: "Sisters Of Mercy"

-- 
//Spider
        [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
                "Marian"
        By: "Sisters Of Mercy"


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From: bankspad
Subject: Re: Nanotech
Date: 7 Apr 1999 21:16:50
Message: <370BF13D.C2FDC976@pacbell.net>
Steve wrote:

> Hang on!   Hang on!
>
> As I answered to a post I saw earlier today: The
> future isn't all that it's cracked up to be.
>
>         <indentation just for Ken>  We still have
> beggars/homeless people in the cities where we
> live, we still have children/young adults leaving
> school not being able to read or wrighte.  There's
> a vicious war in Kosovo, it hasn't rained in some
> parts of Ethiopia for about 15 years.
>
>   As I said the future it's for the imaginative,
> I've read Gibson and all the rest, and who would
> have thought in the seventies when video came out
> that cinema would be so popular now.
>
> Think again chaps and chapesses,  Machines are
> rubish, they break down and need humans to fix
> them.
>
> Don't have bad dreams.
>
> Steve
>

Machines are only as good as the people who build and program them and
as long as we know less about ourselves than the mechanisms we develop
the human race will enjoy it's job-security.
May the good Lord help us if we ever evolve past our ignorances.    ;-]

KB-


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Nanotech
Date: 7 Apr 1999 21:31:57
Message: <370BF80E.47B10583@bahnhof.se>
Steve wrote:
> 
> Hang on!   Hang on!
> 
> As I answered to a post I saw earlier today: The
> future isn't all that it's cracked up to be.
of course. 
"The future will probably be like now, but different" 
I don't know who stated that, but I liked it :-)

>         <indentation just for Ken>  We still have
> beggars/homeless people in the cities where we
> live, we still have children/young adults leaving
> school not being able to read or wrighte.  There's
> a vicious war in Kosovo, it hasn't rained in some
> parts of Ethiopia for about 15 years.
Hmm, genocide again.. 50 years since the last one... *hmm*

>   As I said the future it's for the imaginative,
> I've read Gibson and all the rest, and who would
> have thought in the seventies when video came out
> that cinema would be so popular now.
I agree with you, and I agree with the fact, we will never see far into the
future..
 
> Think again chaps and chapesses,  Machines are
> rubish, they break down and need humans to fix
> them.
hehe, they sure do.

 
> Don't have bad dreams.
Why not? it's a bad world after all...
-- 
//Spider
        [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
                "Marian"
        By: "Sisters Of Mercy"


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From: Kalle Anka
Subject: Re: Nanotech
Date: 7 Apr 1999 22:06:24
Message: <370C010F.7B1591E3@acc.umu.se>
Spider wrote:
> 
> Steve wrote:
> >
> > Hang on!   Hang on!
> >
> > As I answered to a post I saw earlier today: The
> > future isn't all that it's cracked up to be.
> of course.
> "The future will probably be like now, but different"
> I don't know who stated that, but I liked it :-)
I it to, but neither I know who said it.

> 
> >         <indentation just for Ken>  We still have
> > beggars/homeless people in the cities where we
> > live, we still have children/young adults leaving
> > school not being able to read or wrighte.  There's
> > a vicious war in Kosovo, it hasn't rained in some
> > parts of Ethiopia for about 15 years.
> Hmm, genocide again.. 50 years since the last one... *hmm*

Unfourtunatly only 5 years...
Don't you remember the genocide of Tutsi by Hutus in Rwanda.

> 
> >   As I said the future it's for the imaginative,
> > I've read Gibson and all the rest, and who would
> > have thought in the seventies when video came out
> > that cinema would be so popular now.
> I agree with you, and I agree with the fact, we will never see far into the future..

Hardly more than a few years, if even that.

> 
> > Think again chaps and chapesses,  Machines are
> > rubish, they break down and need humans to fix
> > them.
> hehe, they sure do.

To bad humans break down and need fixing to ;(.

> 
> 
> > Don't have bad dreams.
> Why not? it's a bad world after all...

Not all bad, we do have some good things, like POV.

/Peter Toneby


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