Johannes Hubert wrote in message <36e3a732.0@news.povray.org>...
>Stephen Brooker wrote in message <36e36973.0@news.povray.org>...
>>Didn't the ?Roman's? add in days to the calendar along the way when it
>>started to get abit out of whack
>
>Yep, Julius Caesar (-> Julian Calendar)
>

Accumulating inaccuracies of the Julian calendar meant that by 1582 the
vernal equinox was actually occuring on March 11.

>(and didn't someone add in a whole month
>>somewhere along the line?)
>
>Yep, Pope Gregor (-> Gergorian Calendar)
>


Yes, on October 4, 1582, Pope Gregory XIII ordained that the next day would
be October 15th. American colonists steadfastly refused to go along, simply
because the reform had come from Rome. Well, scholars and politicians got
together in 1752 and considered it time for the colonies to catch up. So,
when George Washington was just a wee lad, his birthday moved from February
11, 1731 (Old Calendar) to February 22, 1732 (New Calendar).

>>So isn't the whole idea of counting out exactly
>>2000 years somewhat flawed to start with?
>
>Nope, because:
>
>The year is defined as the time the earth needs to complete one circle
>around the sun (nowadays it is a bit more complicated though ;-)
>It is *not* defined as being 365 days long (or whatever number).
>The additional days were added for exactly this reason, because the time
>around the sun is not 365 days but 365-point-something (go look it up
>yourself ;-)
>

I think it is cyclical, and changes over time, so that the period of measure
would determine the result? I know that the orbital path changes in
dimension as a function of time, due to gyroscopic precession. Supposedly,
every 11,500 years the earth will experience severe weather imbalances and
mass extinctions. PANIC! :)

Please keep that out of the media (heh).

Well, these two points of change (Julian and Gregorian) do not begin to
describe the numerous corrections of the calendar overall. Regardless how
you look a it, the date of 'the birth' is best guess only. Even Eastern
Orthodox today still disagree with Rome, and have held onto the Julian
calendar. So, not even all Christians agree upon the date.

Unfortunately, the same can be said for Passover, which was purposely
'redefined' by Rome to fall always on a Sunday. Traditionally, the Jewish
method was to follow the lunar calendar, which gave no such assurance. The
passover was generally determined by calculations of the Jewish high council
known as "Sanhedrin."

And which day is it, precisely, that is the seventh day? :)

I say we party both years of the 'New Miliienium.'

The purpose of this post is intended as motivation/inspiration to the
calendar/clock themes so prevalent in 'images.binaries' these days. If
someone finds a way to tie all of these details into a single scene, I would
like to see it. ;)

GrimDude
vos### [at] arkansasnet

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Arrgg...

You just let worms out again :-(((


Dave Helfrich wrote:
> 
> Here's a logo I made in POV-Ray for my new web page...
> (http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/israel/351)
> I've decided to start a crusade to remind everyone in the world that the
> year 2000 does not signify the start of the new millennium.  The new
> millenium doesn't start until January 1, 2001.  This millennium ends
> December 31, 2000.

Arrgg...
You just let worms out again :-(((

Please don't start again discussion about it! Don't You have enough from
povray.general thread "Happy Newyear"?

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Well, I guess I can happily say I learnt something new today :)...



Stephen Brooker
ste### [at] lexiconnetnospam

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>Arrgg...
>You just let worms out again :-(((
>
>Please don't start again discussion about it! Don't You have enough from
>povray.general thread "Happy Newyear"?

What worms?

Should I be ashamed of the fact that I don't read povray.general very much?
No I didn't see the thread.  Maybe I should go look?

Dave

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Dave Helfrich wrote:
> 
> >Arrgg...
> >You just let worms out again :-(((
> >
> >Please don't start again discussion about it! Don't You have enough from
> >povray.general thread "Happy Newyear"?
> 
> What worms?
>
> Should I be ashamed of the fact that I don't read povray.general very much?
> No I didn't see the thread.  Maybe I should go look?
> 
> Dave
Sorry, nothing personal, this prayer was addressed to whole group(I
should have written you instead of You, if You understand, what I mean).
I'd like to see more discussion about pictures, discussion about Y2K
seems to be quite OT.
Sorry again, if You feel offended, seems like I had tough day, when I
wrote it.

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I would like to add a little something to a thread, which, from my point of
view, is not in the right place :

To think that 01/01/2000 is a particular date (or 01/01/2001 or whatever),
you have to believe in Christ
you have to believe he was born on a particular date aso

but you also have to believe in the decimal system, personally i will party
all the night on the 0x1st January of the year 0x1000 (the hexadecimal
system is the one I prefer), and you're all invited, the drinks will be on
me!

Philippe

(sorry for my loosy english)

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Ph Gibone wrote in message <36e5714e.0@news.povray.org>...
>
>but you also have to believe in the decimal system, personally i will party
>all the night on the 0x1st January of the year 0x1000 (the hexadecimal
>system is the one I prefer)

I guess it all boils down to the number of fingers one possesses.
Binary, anyone?

Margus

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>I guess it all boils down to the number of fingers one possesses.
>
>Margus
>

In my particular case : you're right !

Philippe

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Ph Gibone wrote in message <36e5714e.0@news.povray.org>...
[snip]
>you're all invited, the drinks will be on me!


Easy for you to say, since you know quite well that none of us will be
around on 0x1000 A.D. (if medicine doesn't make some real progress *really*
soon)...
How about given a party at 0x0800 A.D. instead? Then at least some of us
would have a chance of attending...

Johannes.

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>Ph Gibone wrote in message <36e5714e.0@news.povray.org>...
>[snip]
>>you're all invited, the drinks will be on me!
>
>
>Easy for you to say, since you know quite well that none of us will be
>around on 0x1000 A.D. (if medicine doesn't make some real progress *really*
>soon)...
>How about given a party at 0x0800 A.D. instead? Then at least some of us
>would have a chance of attending...
>
>Johannes.
>


No problem Johannes,

Just keep the last dance for me (I'll be 98, and starting my third teen
crisis !), at that very moment nobody would mind two men dancing together (I
hope)

Philippe

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