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From: David Wilkinson
Subject: Re: Just a question... - Tender_A.jpg (0/1)
Date: 25 Mar 1999 20:40:36
Message: <36fbe0e2.17392648@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 14:57:36 +0100, Markus Becker <bec### [at] zessuni-siegende>
wrote:

>Q: What do you guys (and girls?) do besides raytracing?

A: Try to read all these postings!

Before retiring I was a mechanical engineer, and am now busier than ever and
don't do nearly enough raytracing. Hillwalking, amateur geology, cooking (and
eating!) all take time, along with holidays (just back from a geology expedition
to Tenerife and soon going to look at the Grand Canyon). Railway history is an
interest, hence my use of POV to try and accurately model historic steam
locomotives.  To justify this posting I have attached the tender for a
locomotive I posted last year.  The leaf springs are actually nicely detailed
but because of the resolution show as an unfortunate moire pattern.

While off topic, do any of you guys know about APT, a program and language
developed by Doug Ross of MIT in the mid 60's for defining geometry and guiding
a cutting tool on an NC milling machine?  I like to think of APT an ancestor of
POV-ray. It was one of the first computer applications using every-day english
words like CIRCLE, LINE, SPLINE, CUTTER etc. and had a good range of 3D
geometry.  Like POV the source was freely available. Also like POV you often had
to be quite ingenious to get it to produce what you were after. In those days
you needed a multi-million dollar Univac or IBM installation to run APT, whereas
nowadays, my humble PC could eat it.  What will the next 30 years bring I
wonder?
David
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http://www.hamiltonite.mcmail.com
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From: David Wilkinson
Subject: Re: Just a question... - Tender_A.jpg (0/1)
Date: 25 Mar 1999 20:43:16
Message: <36fde601.18704301@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 14:57:36 +0100, Markus Becker <bec### [at] zessuni-siegende>
wrote:

>Q: What do you guys (and girls?) do besides raytracing?

A: Try to read all these postings!

Before retiring I was a mechanical engineer, and am now busier than ever and
don't do nearly enough raytracing. Hillwalking, amateur geology, cooking (and
eating!) all take time, along with holidays (just back from a geology expedition
to Tenerife and soon going to look at the Grand Canyon). Railway history is an
interest, hence my use of POV to try and accurately model historic steam
locomotives.  To justify this posting I have attached the tender for a
locomotive I posted last year.  The leaf springs are actually nicely detailed
but because of the resolution show as an unfortunate moire pattern.

While off topic, do any of you guys know about APT, a program and language
developed by Doug Ross of MIT in the mid 60's for defining geometry and guiding
a cutting tool on an NC milling machine?  I like to think of APT an ancestor of
POV-ray. It was one of the first computer applications using every-day english
words like CIRCLE, LINE, SPLINE, CUTTER etc. and had a good range of 3D
geometry.  Like POV the source was freely available. Also like POV you often had
to be quite ingenious to get it to produce what you were after. In those days
you needed a multi-million dollar Univac or IBM installation to run APT, whereas
nowadays, my humble PC could eat it.  What will the next 30 years bring I
wonder?
David
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dav### [at] cwcomnet
http://www.hamiltonite.mcmail.com
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From: David Wilkinson
Subject: Re: Just a question... - Tender_A.jpg (0/1) - Tender_A.jpg (0/1)
Date: 25 Mar 1999 21:05:17
Message: <36faeada.610204@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 01:40:20 GMT, dav### [at] cwcomnet (David Wilkinson)
wrote:

 To justify this posting I have attached the tender for a
>locomotive I posted last year.  The leaf springs are actually nicely detailed
>but because of the resolution show as an unfortunate moire pattern.

Timed out before it sent the attachment, try again :-)
>David
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>http://www.hamiltonite.mcmail.com
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From: David Wilkinson
Subject: Re: Just a question... - Tender_A.jpg (0/1) - Tender_A.jpg (1/1)
Date: 25 Mar 1999 21:05:41
Message: <36fbeb4f.726960@news.povray.org>


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Just a question...
Date: 26 Mar 1999 02:31:19
Message: <36FA8E9E.D2F2642A@bahnhof.se>
Define real. :-)

Anthony Bennett wrote:
> 
> >  I am an Engineer.
> 
> Then how come you know so much about everything? (And what's up with some
> people thinking you're not real?) You have to be real, you've mentioned your
> wife and fishing and stuff, so you are real. Right? =)

-- 
//Spider
        [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
                "Marian"
        By: "Sisters Of Mercy"


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Just a question...
Date: 26 Mar 1999 02:31:21
Message: <36FA8F04.3BDBE57F@bahnhof.se>
Hm... 
am I a chaoist then???
I don't care for the theory, I take the idea, mix it with enough random
variables and see what I get as an output. Hmm. Usually it is crap.
(Yeah, I've crashed POV many times with recursive loops, a flame demo and the
same)

Ken wrote:
> 
> Anthony Bennett wrote:
> 
> > I think Mr. Tyler is some sort of scientist...,
> 
> Scientist ? Heavens no ! Scientists spend all of their time making
> guesses about how things work and then rely on their peers to either
> support the guess or tear it to pieces. Engineers hear about the guess,
> go down to the store, buy a few parts, and come back two hous later and
> show the scientist that not only is it possible but can be done cheaply.
> 
> Scientist guess and dream - Engineers build and contribute.
> 
>  I am an Engineer.
> 
> --
> Ken Tyler
> 
> mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net

-- 
//Spider
        [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
                "Marian"
        By: "Sisters Of Mercy"


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Just a question...
Date: 26 Mar 1999 02:31:23
Message: <36FA9027.4DBC330A@bahnhof.se>
I'll jump in here.
I'm a student of unkonw age, educated software tech, currently boring mys
elf to
death with software engineering. I'm from the demo scene of pc's, use and
 handle
most programming languages, and tend to create my scene's as such.

As for the when. I'm insomniac, in the bad way, thus I tend to spend nigh
ts
coding on something in POV, and leave it parsing over the day. I'm a chao
ist,
not as structured as a scentist, far to bored to be an engineer, I just s
ay
"this is how it is" then try to make it so. (hmm, poet comes to mind)

ok, one more thing. Code can be beautiful. just so you know.


Markus Becker wrote:
> 

> .... as I have difficulty just catching up with the posts here.
> 

> Q: What do you guys (and girls?) do besides raytracing?
> Especially with Ken, I can't imagine where he takes all
> his time from....
> 

> You surely must do something for a living. I understand
> that most of the people around here are students, but of
> some, I definitely know that they aren't.
> 

> Markus
> --

lst?
>  Ich nicht eine Sekunde!!!" H. Heinol in Val Thorens

-- 

//Spider
        [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
                "Marian"
        By: "Sisters Of Mercy"


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Just a question... - Tender_A.jpg (0/1) - Tender_A.jpg (1/1)
Date: 27 Mar 1999 11:18:27
Message: <36FD03D4.3FD6EB31@pacbell.net>
David Wilkinson wrote:
> 
>  [Image]

Hi David,

  Seems like you kind of buried this a little too deep to get the
recognition it deserves. This one is defiantly nice. I had just
joined the group here when you posted the engine and at the time
was feeling in awe of the competition on this group. Looks like
you're still setting precedence. I would suggest you back off on
the yellow sky a bit though. Looks like a mustard flower pollen
storm in the air or sulphur clouds ?

  On the subject of trains I ran across an archive of train
photography not too long ago and book marked the file for myself
and with the intention of passing it on to you. You may already
know of if it but if you don't it is a definite must see. They
claim to have one of the largest train related image and general
train information archives on the net.

ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/graphics/trains/
ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/graphics/trains/aeroscan/

-- 
Ken Tyler

mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net


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From: David Wilkinson
Subject: Re: Just a question... - Tender_A.jpg (0/1) - Tender_A.jpg (1/1)
Date: 27 Mar 1999 15:41:17
Message: <36fd3fb4.15781933@news.povray.org>


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Just a question... - Tender_A.jpg (0/1) - Tender_A.jpg (1/1)
Date: 29 Mar 1999 10:19:11
Message: <36FF9A24.DEFAF2AA@ndirect.co.uk>
David

I've seen this post, and been to your web site, I really like this
stuff.  How about doing one of the Black 5 and tender coupled up?

A request:  Could you please do an image of my favourite the 8F?

Maybe in the future a goods yard with a Panya Tank and a few freight
engines and trucks.  

Cheers
Steve

David Wilkinson wrote:
> 
>  [Image]


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