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From: stm31415
Subject: Re: minimalism: final (~4k)
Date: 26 Jul 2005 10:20:01
Message: <web.42e6459494459f446d0d5d740@news.povray.org>
Yes I have to say
that looks awfully like my own...
where did you get that!?

-s
5TF!


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From: Phil Clute
Subject: Re: minimalism: final (~4k)
Date: 27 Jul 2005 04:09:43
Message: <42e74147$1@news.povray.org>
I see you are inspired by Mark Rothko's work. Cathedral is it not?
:)


--
Phil


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From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: Re: minimalism: final (~4k)
Date: 27 Jul 2005 08:54:24
Message: <42e78400$1@news.povray.org>
"povray" <pov### [at] almostbestwebnet> wrote in message 
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> Lots of posts involving minimalism.  Might as well join in.
> So now we have the most minimal picture possible.  Enjoy.

Incredible!  When viewed in my "Windows picture and fax viewer" it's very 
reminiscent of Malevich's famous "black square", especially if the rotation 
of my screen is a little off.
http://www.georgetown.edu/faculty/irvinem/visualarts/Image-Library/Malevich/malevich-black-square-1913-2.jpg

Obviously, you knew this, though, which really shows your genius.  Nice 
work!

;-)


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: minimalism: final (~4k)
Date: 27 Jul 2005 09:46:28
Message: <42e79034$1@news.povray.org>
Jeremy M. Praay wrote:
> "povray" <pov### [at] almostbestwebnet> wrote in message 
> news:1f3f.42e4fcb5.4414c@localhost...
> 
>>Lots of posts involving minimalism.  Might as well join in.
>>So now we have the most minimal picture possible.  Enjoy.
> 
> 
> Incredible!  When viewed in my "Windows picture and fax viewer" it's very 
> reminiscent of Malevich's famous "black square", especially if the rotation 
> of my screen is a little off.
>
http://www.georgetown.edu/faculty/irvinem/visualarts/Image-Library/Malevich/malevich-black-square-1913-2.jpg
> 
> Obviously, you knew this, though, which really shows your genius.  Nice 
> work!
> 
> ;-) 
> 
> 
Brings back painful memories.


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From: stm31415
Subject: Re: minimalism: final (~4k)
Date: 27 Jul 2005 19:00:00
Message: <web.42e811df94459f44d1c814810@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> Jeremy M. Praay wrote:
> > "povray" <pov### [at] almostbestwebnet> wrote in message
> > news:1f3f.42e4fcb5.4414c@localhost...
> >
> >>Lots of posts involving minimalism.  Might as well join in.
> >>So now we have the most minimal picture possible.  Enjoy.
> >
> >
> > Incredible!  When viewed in my "Windows picture and fax viewer" it's very
> > reminiscent of Malevich's famous "black square", especially if the rotation
> > of my screen is a little off.
> >
http://www.georgetown.edu/faculty/irvinem/visualarts/Image-Library/Malevich/malevich-black-square-1913-2.jpg
> >
> > Obviously, you knew this, though, which really shows your genius.  Nice
> > work!
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> >
> Brings back painful memories


suprematism
(fits, barely, within a line)
is minimal, right?

-s
5TF!


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: minimalism: final (~4k)
Date: 28 Jul 2005 03:54:20
Message: <42e88f2c$1@news.povray.org>
stm31415 wrote:
> Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> 
>>Jeremy M. Praay wrote:
>>
>>>"povray" <pov### [at] almostbestwebnet> wrote in message
>>>news:1f3f.42e4fcb5.4414c@localhost...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Lots of posts involving minimalism.  Might as well join in.
>>>>So now we have the most minimal picture possible.  Enjoy.
>>>
>>>
>>>Incredible!  When viewed in my "Windows picture and fax viewer" it's very
>>>reminiscent of Malevich's famous "black square", especially if the rotation
>>>of my screen is a little off.
>>>http://www.georgetown.edu/faculty/irvinem/visualarts/Image-Library/Malevich/malevich-black-square-1913-2.jpg
>>>
>>>Obviously, you knew this, though, which really shows your genius.  Nice
>>>work!
>>>
>>>;-)
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Brings back painful memories
> 
> 
> 
> suprematism
> (fits, barely, within a line)
> is minimal, right?
> 

Awhile back, in a thread I no longer remember the point of, I was 
mouthing off as
usual, That time, I launched on a whole thing about "monochrome" 
paintings/painters.  It was in response to a posted link to a picture of 
a Malevich painting of a colored square against a white field.  Thing 
was, I thought I was looking at a picture of a monochrome painting 
hanging on a wall.  My memory had abbreviated Malevich's entire career 
to his famous white on white painting and completely forgot what the 
majority of his oeuvre looked like.  So I "saw" what I expected to see. 
  Gilles responded very diplomatically as I recall.


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From: povray
Subject: Re: minimalism: final (~4k)
Date: 29 Jul 2005 18:33:03
Message: <4a3a.42e98f1b.60a8a@localhost>
Skip Talbot wrote:
> 
> You better be careful if you submit this to the IRTC for you might be 
> accused of stealing someone elses rendering.  It appeared twice in the 
> Night round.  ;)
> 
> Skip
> 

I need to get the focal blur and radiosity settings
just right before I even I even think of submitting this
for the IRTC.


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From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: Re: minimalism: final (~4k)
Date: 2 Aug 2005 09:55:16
Message: <42ef7b44$1@news.povray.org>
"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote in message 
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> Awhile back, in a thread I no longer remember the point of, I was mouthing 
> off as
> usual, That time, I launched on a whole thing about "monochrome" 
> paintings/painters.  It was in response to a posted link to a picture of a 
> Malevich painting of a colored square against a white field.  Thing was, I 
> thought I was looking at a picture of a monochrome painting hanging on a 
> wall.  My memory had abbreviated Malevich's entire career to his famous 
> white on white painting and completely forgot what the majority of his 
> oeuvre looked like.  So I "saw" what I expected to see. Gilles responded 
> very diplomatically as I recall.
>

Sorry for the late response...

It was one of my threads! 
http://news.povray.org/irtc.stills/thread/%3C3e9ae047%241%40news.povray.org%3E/?ttop=216344&toff=100

Anyway, it was a very informative experience for me (I was Slashdolt at that 
time).  I just re-read portions of it.  I think I've matured quite a bit 
since those days.  I hope so, anyway...

The most painful part for me was re-reading something I typed in (bad) 
French in response to Gilles' mentioning the boar skeleton.  Alas, I was 
young and impetuous.


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From: Shay
Subject: Re: minimalism: final (~4k)
Date: 2 Aug 2005 20:41:12
Message: <42f012a8$1@news.povray.org>
Jeremy M. Praay wrote:

> It was one of my threads! 
> 
> <snip> I think I've matured quite a bit 
> since those days.  I hope so, anyway...
> 
> <snip> Alas, I was young and impetuous. 

Any you want *that* to have changed !?!??

Sorry for getting even more OT, but I got a nice chuckle the other day 
from re-reading some old stuff. After resubscribing to i.stills and 
loading the 500 most recent messages. I noticed that the 500th most 
recent was my own. It was (or was near) an old exchange with Gilles in 
the 'Surrealism' thread, proceding POVCOMP by many months, where we each 
took identical positions to those we would later take when the POVCOMP 
thing blew up. I've got to take (and give) credit for consistency. :)

Back on-topic. .....
Argggh! what a tired joke.

  -Shay


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From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: Re: minimalism: final (~4k)
Date: 3 Aug 2005 08:19:39
Message: <42f0b65b$1@news.povray.org>
"Shay" <dd### [at] dddd> wrote in message news:42f012a8$1@news.povray.org...
> Jeremy M. Praay wrote:
>> <snip> I think I've matured quite a bit since those days.  I hope so, 
>> anyway...
>>
>> <snip> Alas, I was young and impetuous.
>
> And you want *that* to have changed !?!??
>

Well, that could make me very philosophical.  Getting older isn't fun, but 
I'm hopefully getting wiser as well (and lately, healthier, thanks to my 
bike).  :-)

> Back on-topic. .....
> Argggh! what a tired joke.

Malevich's Red Square has become the "poster child" for art that I don't 
understand.  However, looking at some of his other work, I can see what an 
accomplished artist he really was.  But I still don't think I will ever 
truly understand or appreciate most abstract and/or minimalist art.  I might 
enter the IRTC this round, but if so, my take on the topic will be a little 
different, and it will reflect ideas that I've already been working on for 
the last few months.  No pressure to win this time.  :-)


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