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From: Micheal (Mike) Williams
Subject: My First animation post
Date: 9 Aug 2003 00:14:04
Message: <3f34750c$1@news.povray.org>
I did this for a lesson at church..

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From: Slime
Subject: Re: My First animation post
Date: 9 Aug 2003 00:50:54
Message: <3f347dae@news.povray.org>
> I did this for a lesson at church..

I'll bet they were really impressed!

 - Slime
 [ http://www.slimeland.com ]

(ps: you didn't include your animation)


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From: Neonux
Subject: Re: My First animation post
Date: 9 Aug 2003 08:25:36
Message: <3f34e840$1@news.povray.org>
> > I did this for a lesson at church..
>
> I'll bet they were really impressed!

Didn't you see the animation of a white rabbit jumping around in a snow
storm?


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From: Micheal (Mike) Williams
Subject: Re: My First animation post
Date: 10 Aug 2003 01:19:00
Message: <3f35d5c4@news.povray.org>
It is nice to see people that never have any problems with their computers!

The file encoded too large for the server. Here it is on my own site.
http://members.cox.net/m1j/images/Untitled.mpg



"Micheal (Mike) Williams" <mic### [at] quixnetnet> wrote in message
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> I did this for a lesson at church..
>
> --
> Mike Williams
>
>
> IBO#770070
> www.quixtar.com
> www.espring.com
> www.nutrilite.com
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From: Tek
Subject: Re: My First animation post
Date: 10 Aug 2003 07:43:04
Message: <3f362fc8@news.povray.org>
Well that's an... uh, interesting... animation. Still I guess it would make more
sense with the lesson you were teaching.

Why can I see polygons in the word "sin"? it's shaped as if it's just textured
onto a sphere but when it gets close I'm sure I can see angles in it. The
texture on the ground when the cross lands is pretty nice.

Though I would suggest turning down the compression quality to get a smaller
video for posting, that video is very high quality and that's why it was so big.

-- 
Tek
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"Micheal (Mike) Williams" <mic### [at] quixnetnet> wrote in message
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> It is nice to see people that never have any problems with their computers!
>
> The file encoded too large for the server. Here it is on my own site.
> http://members.cox.net/m1j/images/Untitled.mpg
>
>
>
> "Micheal (Mike) Williams" <mic### [at] quixnetnet> wrote in message
> news:3f34750c$1@news.povray.org...
> > I did this for a lesson at church..
> >
> > --
> > Mike Williams
> >
> >
> > IBO#770070
> > www.quixtar.com
> > www.espring.com
> > www.nutrilite.com
> > www.blionline.com
> >
> >
>
>


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From: Neonux
Subject: Re: My First animation post
Date: 10 Aug 2003 19:30:28
Message: <3f36d594@news.povray.org>
Parts of this animation are technically interesting. However I find it is
trying to force feed a message that just doesn't make it "work" for me.

> http://members.cox.net/m1j/images/Untitled.mpg


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From: Shay
Subject: Re: My First animation post
Date: 11 Aug 2003 11:27:36
Message: <3f37b5e8$1@news.povray.org>
"Micheal (Mike) Williams" <mic### [at] quixnetnet> wrote in message
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| I did this for a lesson at church..
|

I think that the sin needs to bleed a bit!!!! Perhaps in your lesson,
you could share the story of early Christian emperor Theodosius. There
was a man who knew how to take care of sin. Though Constantine's (the
father of the Christian Bible) nephew Julian had served for a short time
between, Theodosius was Constantine's true successor. At that time, many
Christians committed the sin of refusing to accept the revision of their
religion to include the Pagan prophesies of virgin birth and
resurrection. Theodosius stood firm. He invited these sinners to a
circus, and then, like your animation, snuffed them out. Fifteen
thousand of them. I think that this story would be a good example for
the kids.

 -Shay


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From: Micheal (Mike) Williams
Subject: Re: My First animation post
Date: 11 Aug 2003 21:43:29
Message: <3f384641$1@news.povray.org>
From past post I would have gathered the subject matter of animation and
images posted here was not of much concern. From nudity to paganism and the
occult. Why would my post now some how require such criticism over the
content?


"Neonux" <neo### [at] softhomenet> wrote in message
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> Parts of this animation are technically interesting. However I find it is
> trying to force feed a message that just doesn't make it "work" for me.
>
> > http://members.cox.net/m1j/images/Untitled.mpg
>
>


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From: Neonux
Subject: Re: My First animation post
Date: 12 Aug 2003 03:38:55
Message: <3f38998f@news.povray.org>
> From past post I would have gathered the subject matter of animation and
> images posted here was not of much concern. From nudity to paganism and
the
> occult. Why would my post now some how require such criticism over the
> content?

Having not paid much attention to this group I haven't spotted any of those
posts that you refer too.

I don't then feel qualified to comment on those.  I would imagine that they
words [nudity] or [offensive] may be used in the subject line of such a
post?

Like I said it just doesn't "work" for _me_.  I don't mean to offend by that
but perhaps the subject matter could be handled in a different way to get
the same message?

Infact I find that the cross hitting the "sin" seems quite a violent act.
Not something I associate with.

Religious over zealousness can sometimes perpetuate (sp?) the exact thing
that is trying to be contained.

Some so called religious people are infact hiding behind a belief system to
excuse their own shortcomings or weakness.  It can give the majority a bad
name I'm afraid.

Its dangerous ground I am treading here.  I try not to offend just point out
some of my own experiences.


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From: Micheal (Mike) Williams
Subject: Re: My First animation post
Date: 12 Aug 2003 11:24:56
Message: <3f3906c8$1@news.povray.org>
I understand.

I need to explain the idea. The lesson did just that.
The point is that we are all sinners. Sin will get in the way of blessing
from God. How ever if we truly live by the sacrifice of Jesus sin in our
lives is crushed and has no power over us. We will continue to sin but as
long as we continue to resist and focus on what took place on the cross we
can defeat sin and the devil. So the point was to illustrate how that cross
affectively kills sin in our lives. In biblical terms we are covered by the
blood. With out the context of the symbols I can understand your comment. I
did not expect the content of any art to be that important here.

And for who ever commented about the word sin, yes it is mapped onto a poly
sphere. I used another program for that. I was out of time and needed a
quick gui to build the motion path. All of it was composed in Premiere.



"Neonux" <neo### [at] softhomenet> wrote in message
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> > From past post I would have gathered the subject matter of animation and
> > images posted here was not of much concern. From nudity to paganism and
> the
> > occult. Why would my post now some how require such criticism over the
> > content?
>
> Having not paid much attention to this group I haven't spotted any of
those
> posts that you refer too.
>
> I don't then feel qualified to comment on those.  I would imagine that
they
> words [nudity] or [offensive] may be used in the subject line of such a
> post?
>
> Like I said it just doesn't "work" for _me_.  I don't mean to offend by
that
> but perhaps the subject matter could be handled in a different way to get
> the same message?
>
> Infact I find that the cross hitting the "sin" seems quite a violent act.
> Not something I associate with.
>
> Religious over zealousness can sometimes perpetuate (sp?) the exact thing
> that is trying to be contained.
>
> Some so called religious people are infact hiding behind a belief system
to
> excuse their own shortcomings or weakness.  It can give the majority a bad
> name I'm afraid.
>
> Its dangerous ground I am treading here.  I try not to offend just point
out
> some of my own experiences.
>
>


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