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From: Bob H 
Subject: HF seeded with flowers in a vain way [~900KB Mpg]
Date: 12 May 2001 08:15:14
Message: <3afd2952@news.povray.org>
Seeded because it's using random numbers, vain because it uses a photo of
me.
Not something a person should render over and over again too much, a picture
of themselves.  Gets a little strange.

I was wanting to try what I have seen in a television commercial where
flowers bloom out and form the picture.  Used MegaPov 'trace' to find the
positions, not hf_height_at, hoping to do more with that I hope.  I have a
long way to go before I get there.  Figured I'd make a animation of one of
my nieces when I find a good photograph of her.

Well, have a look if you will please, just don't loop it for too long.  :-)

Bob H.
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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: HF seeded with flowers in a vain way [~900KB Mpg]
Date: 12 May 2001 09:00:19
Message: <3afd33e3@news.povray.org>
Needs a lot more and smaller flowers. Maybe drop the pixel count in the
image map until each flower gets one color. Then each flower should grow at
a slightly different rate and a different height.

    Done really well it would leave your neice thinking your were the
ultimate hero.


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From: Bob H 
Subject: Re: HF seeded with flowers in a vain way [~900KB Mpg]
Date: 12 May 2001 09:15:48
Message: <3afd3784@news.povray.org>
"Bill DeWitt" <bde### [at] cflrrcom> wrote in message
news:3afd33e3@news.povray.org...
>
>     Needs a lot more and smaller flowers. Maybe drop the pixel count in
the
> image map until each flower gets one color. Then each flower should grow
at
> a slightly different rate and a different height.

Hmmm, possibly by using eval_pigment I could try that.  Just that I haven't
really used it to know about adding it in.  I already had done another of
these with more of a blooming flowers look, starting closed and opening; 600
is the count but it sure doesn't look it.  Also random sizes too.  The file
is about 1.5 MB though.
A varying growth rate would be good too.
I was thinking about not using the image mapped to the HF so that the
flowers do all the work, haven't tried it yet.

Bob H.


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: HF seeded with flowers in a vain way [~900KB Mpg]
Date: 12 May 2001 09:35:51
Message: <3afd3c37@news.povray.org>
"Bob H." <omn### [at] msncom> wrote :
>
> I was thinking about not using the image mapped to the HF so that the
> flowers do all the work, haven't tried it yet.

    Yeah, I would really do this if I were you (and had the patience to work
it out). Have the green flowers grow out of grass then back out in time to
see them bloom into her picture.


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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: HF seeded with flowers in a vain way [~900KB Mpg]
Date: 12 May 2001 10:38:12
Message: <3afd4ad4@news.povray.org>
I would suggest many many smaller flowers that perhaps curve upwards a
little more, and perhaps with out the HF below the flower being visible -
only on the petals


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From: Tony[B]
Subject: Re: HF seeded with flowers in a vain way [~900KB Mpg]
Date: 12 May 2001 17:09:08
Message: <3afda674@news.povray.org>
Spooky-cool. :)


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From: Bob H 
Subject: Re: HF seeded with flowers again, file on web
Date: 12 May 2001 18:52:10
Message: <3afdbe9a@news.povray.org>
"Rick [Kitty5]" <ric### [at] kitty5com> wrote in message
news:3afd4ad4@news.povray.org...
> I would suggest many many smaller flowers that perhaps curve upwards a
> little more, and perhaps with out the HF below the flower being visible -
> only on the petals

How about a picture of someone else too?  For now I'm using a sample photo
from some scanner software.

File size is over the limit for here, being 860KB, so it is at:
http://webpages.charter.net/omniverse/flwrgirltrace.mpg

The flowers start out as buds, although so small that might not be obvious,
then they flatten out.  Needs stems added, and more height variation too
except shadows are a problem.

Bob H.


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: HF seeded with flowers again, file on web
Date: 13 May 2001 04:32:30
Message: <3AFE46E8.EF7B47CE@gmx.de>
"Bob H." wrote:
> 
> How about a picture of someone else too?  For now I'm using a sample photo
> from some scanner software.

How about varying the style of the flower according to the picture too. 
You could also try making the flowers a 'wave' moving across the picture.

Christoph

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From: Bob H 
Subject: Re: HF seeded with flowers again, file on web
Date: 13 May 2001 06:05:24
Message: <3afe5c64@news.povray.org>
"Christoph Hormann" <chr### [at] gmxde> wrote in message
news:3AFE46E8.EF7B47CE@gmx.de...
>
> How about varying the style of the flower according to the picture too.
> You could also try making the flowers a 'wave' moving across the picture.

That would be good, yes, if I can work with eval_pigment okay anyhow.  I
started thinking about rotating the flowers around toward the light, moving
it around instead of the moving the camera, but I'd be going off on a
tangent from what I intended to start with.
I keep forgetting to how the midway point has a glitch of scale change or
camera shift or something.  Haven't tracked it down yet, the flowers stop
being placed at >0.5 (clock halfway point) or rather are placed from 0 to
<=0.5.
Wasn't concerned with that before so much but now I'm not sure what's
causing it.

Bob H.


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From: Spock
Subject: Re: HF seeded with flowers again, file on web
Date: 13 May 2001 09:35:33
Message: <3afe8da5$1@news.povray.org>
This looks nice.  If I could make a couple of suggestions they would be:

- Try it without the large scale motion of the plane (or the camera,
whichever you are doing).  I find this a bit headache-inducing and it also
masks any subtleties in the flower arrangement or motion.  Also your movie
size may be reduced if you keep the camera/plane relatively still... and
this would imply more frames and more detail within the same file size.

- Play with the flowers a bit more.  Try the other suggestions concerning
waves, height, timing, etc.  I like what you have done with the green
background and the bright petals, but you can keep going.

- For bonus points you might be able to figure out how to alternate between
two images.  If a wind were to flip over each petal in turn and reveal a
different picture on the underside you would have the basis for looping your
movie.  Or maybe I am just getting carried away here :-)

Anyway it looks great so far.  Looking forward to the evolution.


"Bob H." <omn### [at] msncom> wrote in message
news:3afdbe9a@news.povray.org...
> "Rick [Kitty5]" <ric### [at] kitty5com> wrote in message
> news:3afd4ad4@news.povray.org...
> > I would suggest many many smaller flowers that perhaps curve upwards a
> > little more, and perhaps with out the HF below the flower being
visible -
> > only on the petals
>
> How about a picture of someone else too?  For now I'm using a sample photo
> from some scanner software.
>
> File size is over the limit for here, being 860KB, so it is at:
> http://webpages.charter.net/omniverse/flwrgirltrace.mpg
>
> The flowers start out as buds, although so small that might not be
obvious,
> then they flatten out.  Needs stems added, and more height variation too
> except shadows are a problem.
>
> Bob H.
>
>


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