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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: Fire With Turbulence (121kbu)
Date: 2 Apr 2001 10:04:07
Message: <3ac886d7@news.povray.org>
definatly looks much better, maybe you should try placing a couple of these
side by side, increasing the overall particle count, yet mainging them half
the size they are now


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Fire With Turbulence (121kbu)
Date: 2 Apr 2001 11:04:47
Message: <3ac8950f@news.povray.org>
"Tony[B]" wrote:
> Eeeenteresting...  I didn't think it would work that well...

Me neither. :)

> still, there's something not quite right... Maybe you
> need to add more particles?

Dunno. I will try to tweak it to see what looks nice.

Rune
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Fire With Turbulence (121kbu)
Date: 2 Apr 2001 11:04:48
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"Andy Cocker" wrote:
> I actually think this looks excellent, especially at
> the very top where the 'flames' are dying.

I agree that's the best part.

> I think that what would make it even more realistic
> is to speed it up

Will do!

> Also (if you are able), attatch some audio of a fire
> crackling... I'm sure that would help ;-)

Hmm, maybe, if I can find a good sound and if it doesn't add too much to the
filesize. :)

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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Fire With Turbulence (121kbu)
Date: 2 Apr 2001 11:04:49
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"Nekar Xenos" wrote:
> Beautiful!
>
> Love it!

Thank you!

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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Fire With Turbulence (121kbu)
Date: 2 Apr 2001 11:04:50
Message: <3ac89512$1@news.povray.org>
"Marc-Hendrik Bremer" wrote:
> When I look at it, I just think 'torch' with that
> swinging in the upper part, it can't be that a big
> fire, but it has to be quite 'free' to burn that way.

I agree. I think.

> I like it very much.

Thank you!

> As Andy said, it is a bit slow for real fire.

I will speed it up!

I'm not sure about the green tint though...

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From: Rune
Subject: Re: particle system : fire (121kbu)
Date: 2 Apr 2001 11:04:53
Message: <3ac89515@news.povray.org>
"Nekar Xenos" wrote:
> Nice work.

Thanks!

> It reminds me of the flames in a game called
> 'the Wheel of Time'   :)

Doesn't ring a bell.

> I think the top part of each 'particle' should be
> pointy maybe...

That's not possible with glows, but you gave me another idea: I'll try to
scale the turbulence longer in the y direction and see if that improves it.
:)

> Flames are also usually more transparent at the core.

Again, that's not so easy to control with glows. But I'll keep it in mind
for my media experiments which I will do later!

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From: Rune
Subject: Re: particle system : fire (121kbu)
Date: 2 Apr 2001 11:04:55
Message: <3ac89517@news.povray.org>
"Geoff Wedig" wrote:
> I've been looking at both, and it's fantastic.

Thank you! :)

> The edges are a little funky on the bottom, as it fades
> out, but I don't know that there's much that can be done
> about that, using glows.

I think you're right...

> The top reminds me of the light from the fire reflected
> off of smoke (smoke so dark you can't see it against the
> background, maybe?)

I hadn't thought about that, but it could be interpreted that way. I don't
really have any smoke in the scene though, so it would just be fake if
anything.

> You might want to try adding a ground plane and a few
> light sources (not sure what, or how, since one for every
> particle would be *way* slow) to give the ground flickering.
> It would add a lot of realism.

Good idea, I'll try!

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From: Marc-Hendrik Bremer
Subject: Re: Fire With Turbulence (121kbu)
Date: 2 Apr 2001 11:36:37
Message: <3ac89c85@news.povray.org>
Rune schrieb in Nachricht <3ac89512$1@news.povray.org>...
>I'm not sure about the green tint though...


Me neither ;-)

Marc-Hendrik


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From: Jamie Davison
Subject: Re: Fire With Turbulence (121kbu)
Date: 2 Apr 2001 15:43:54
Message: <MPG.1532e26b182ad36d9898a5@news.povray.org>
> > Also (if you are able), attatch some audio of a fire
> > crackling... I'm sure that would help ;-)
> 
> Hmm, maybe, if I can find a good sound and if it doesn't add too much to the
> filesize. :)

To get a reasonable crackling sound, take 1 (one) plastic crisp packet, 
and rustle, crunch and otherwise mangle it next to the microphone.  Well 
that's how they did the fire sound effect in the original Populous, 
anyway :)

As far as the file size goes, you're on your own...

Bye for now,
     Jamie.


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From: Batronyx
Subject: Re: particle system : fire (121kbu)
Date: 2 Apr 2001 21:18:00
Message: <3ac924c8@news.povray.org>
Just viewed both of them. Very nice! Makes me want to break out the
marshmallows. Hmmm. . .  a few glowing logs at the base and nobody would
know it wasn't transparent; a little blue glow undulating across their
surface. . . keep just a few of the un-turbulated particles from the first
anim and slow them down as bits of ash on convection currents. . . yeah.
Then I would need hotdogs too!


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