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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: IsoCacti.pov
Date: 1 Dec 2001 10:10:24
Message: <3c08f2e0@news.povray.org>
In article <3c08e858$1@news.povray.org> , "Gilles Tran" <tra### [at] inapginrafr>
wrote:

> - putting -GW on the command line doesn't remove the warnings either (-GA
> does remove them and the statistics)

I never used text streams so I can't really tell you how those work, but I
can tell you that it is easily possible to turn off warnings and only
warnings.  The information is in the appropriate place in the documentation.


    Thorsten


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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: IsoCacti.pov
Date: 1 Dec 2001 11:01:52
Message: <3c08fef0@news.povray.org>

3c08f2e0@news.povray.org...
> I never used text streams so I can't really tell you how those work, but I
> can tell you that it is easily possible to turn off warnings and only
> warnings.  The information is in the appropriate place in the
documentation.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying (see 5.2.5.2  Console Text Output)
-GW turns off the warnings, but not the new isosurface warnings.
Right now, the only workaround to turn off the iso warnings is to use -GA,
which removes almost all the text output.

G.

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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: IsoCacti.pov
Date: 1 Dec 2001 11:25:30
Message: <3c09047a@news.povray.org>
In article <3c08fef0@news.povray.org> , "Gilles Tran" <tra### [at] inapginrafr>
wrote:

> Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying (see 5.2.5.2  Console Text Output)
> -GW turns off the warnings, but not the new isosurface warnings.
> Right now, the only workaround to turn off the iso warnings is to use -GA,
> which removes almost all the text output.

It is in section 5.2.5, maybe you should read the whole section.  All you do
right now is hide the warnings, but you can really turn them off!

    Thorsten

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From: JRG
Subject: Re: IsoCacti.pov
Date: 1 Dec 2001 15:25:25
Message: <3c093cb5@news.povray.org>
But you agree that there's a bug of some sort: I have too a scene with
several hundred isos and, once POV-Ray has finshed to trace, I have to wait
a minute for all those warnings saying that the maximum gradient found is
0.000.

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"Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:3c09047a@news.povray.org...
> In article <3c08fef0@news.povray.org> , "Gilles Tran" <tra### [at] inapginrafr>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying (see 5.2.5.2  Console Text Output)
> > -GW turns off the warnings, but not the new isosurface warnings.
> > Right now, the only workaround to turn off the iso warnings is to
use -GA,
> > which removes almost all the text output.
>
> It is in section 5.2.5, maybe you should read the whole section.  All you
do
> right now is hide the warnings, but you can really turn them off!
>
>     Thorsten
>
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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: IsoCacti.pov
Date: 1 Dec 2001 15:52:08
Message: <3c0942f8@news.povray.org>
In article <3c093cb5@news.povray.org> , "JRG" <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

> But you agree that there's a bug of some sort: I have too a scene with
> several hundred isos and, once POV-Ray has finshed to trace, I have to wait
> a minute for all those warnings saying that the maximum gradient found is
> 0.000.

It does this only if the gradient found was really zero, which can i.e. be
the case if there was no intersection.  I will adjust the warning message to
ignore such cases, yet.

That Gilles can't turn off the warning with -GW is also not correct,
however, there is a much better workaround than - GA in section 5.2.5.4 of
the documentation, which explains the warning level option.  Hopefully
Gilles has found it by now...

    Thorsten

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From: JRG
Subject: Re: IsoCacti.pov
Date: 1 Dec 2001 16:27:13
Message: <3c094b31@news.povray.org>
Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> That Gilles can't turn off the warning with -GW is also not correct,
> however, there is a much better workaround than - GA in section 5.2.5.4 of
> the documentation, which explains the warning level option.  Hopefully
> Gilles has found it by now...

I personally got rid of them with +wl0.


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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: IsoCacti.pov
Date: 1 Dec 2001 16:31:56
Message: <3c094c4c$1@news.povray.org>

3c0942f8@news.povray.org...
> It does this only if the gradient found was really zero, which can i.e. be
> the case if there was no intersection.  I will adjust the warning message
to
> ignore such cases, yet.

But the fact that the warning message happens even when a max_gradient is
given by the user is still a bug, isn't it ? Or am I confused about the
purpose of the warning ? Like JRG I was a bit surprised to see my current
scene output hundreds of (useless in this case) iso warnings...

> That Gilles can't turn off the warning with -GW is also not correct,
> however, there is a much better workaround than - GA in section 5.2.5.4 of
> the documentation, which explains the warning level option.  Hopefully
> Gilles has found it by now...

Well, thanks a lot, warning level 0 works.
I'm still wondering at the difference between -GW (turn console display of
warning text off), and WL0 (turns off all warnings), though... -GW should
work, at least, since it's working for #warning, or am I (again) totally
confused by what the text streams mean ? It's true that I never spent much
time investigating this part of Povray as it seemed quite straightforward.

G.



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>
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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: IsoCacti.pov
Date: 1 Dec 2001 16:55:11
Message: <3c0951bf@news.povray.org>
In article <3c094c4c$1@news.povray.org> , "Gilles Tran" <tra### [at] inapginrafr>
wrote:

> But the fact that the warning message happens even when a max_gradient is
> given by the user is still a bug, isn't it ? Or am I confused about the
> purpose of the warning ?

As explained in my response to JRG only the output of 0.0 is a bug.  For
details about the message and relating changes, see the thread 'beta 8' in
p.pre-beta.

> I'm still wondering at the difference between -GW (turn console display of
> warning text off), and WL0 (turns off all warnings), though... -GW should
> work, at least, since it's working for #warning, or am I (again) totally
> confused by what the text streams mean ? It's true that I never spent much
> time investigating this part of Povray as it seemed quite straightforward.

No, as I noted in my previous response to JRG, there is a problem.  In short
lets just say POV-Ray does not expect any text stream outputs after
rendering is complete and it would reset the user settings prior to
releasing memory of the scene.  However, that is exactly the time when
isosurfaces check the maximum gradient and output it if necessary...

    Thorsten

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From: Mike Williams
Subject: Re: IsoCacti.pov
Date: 17 Jan 2002 02:25:12
Message: <1$sqAKA8LkR8Ewk5@econym.demon.co.uk>
Wasn't it Jide who wrote:
>Athlon, 512 Mb ram, Win ME, beta 8(both compiles)
>
>IsoCacti.pov in advanced dir gives dozens of max_gradient found
>was 0.000 warnings for line 73.
>Is this a bug or a case of "bad" functions?

I had a quick check to see if this had been fixed in beta 10.

The reported problem has been fixed, but the output doesn't look
anything like cacti any more. It looks like there's something wrong with
the camera.

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From: Ari-Matti Leppanen
Subject: Re: IsoCacti.pov
Date: 19 Jan 2002 02:56:06
Message: <3c492696$1@news.povray.org>
"Mike Williams" <mik### [at] nospamplease> wrote in message
news:1$sqAKA8LkR8Ewk5@econym.demon.co.uk...
> The reported problem has been fixed, but the output doesn't look
> anything like cacti any more. It looks like there's something wrong
> with the camera.

It's the new camera.. just:
#version 3.1;
camera {...}
#version 3.5;
and it works fine.

Ari-Matti


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