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From: Adrien Beau
Subject: Re: Win install
Date: 7 Sep 2001 10:06:39
Message: <3B98D464.25D32441@sycomore.fr>
Tom Melly wrote:
> 
> On a similiar note (and a generic problem with installs), could the contents of
> the program group folder be explicitely indicated as pov resources? If one
> elects to dump the contents into an existing folder, "readme" and "licence
> agreement" become anonymous.

Are we still talking Windows here? I hardly understand you.

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From: Jérôme Grimbert
Subject: Re: Win install
Date: 7 Sep 2001 10:16:36
Message: <3B98D6C7.8F7CB1A9@atosorigin.com>
Adrien Beau wrote:
> 
> Tom Melly wrote:
> >
> > Windows install (minor) gripe.
> >
> > 3 icons? One on the desktop, and 2 in the start menu? IMHO that's 2 too many
> 
> The POV-Ray sub-folder in Start > Programs is a bare minimum,
> that every Windows program has used since Windows 95.
> 
> The POV-Ray icon in Start > Programs is perhaps redundant,
> but saves one mouse "move". Major applications (Office, etc.)
> use that also.
> 
> I'm told some persons use the desktop, so putting an icon there
> is not a bad idea.
> 

I find the desktop too agressive.
If I really want it on desktop, I can do it manually
(Or it can be asked during the installation).

The folder is fine, but everything in it should still be tagged with Povray.
(Readme, license, Tutorial, and so)

IMNSHO, the shortcut for povray should be in the folder.
If I want it top application, It is easy to move it.

Because every programs behave like a pig is no reason to do the same.
(Sorry, I do not want to offense pigs).


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Win install
Date: 7 Sep 2001 10:18:45
Message: <3b98d745$1@news.povray.org>
"Adrien Beau" <adr### [at] sycomorefr> wrote in message
news:3B98D464.25D32441@sycomore.fr...
>
> Are we still talking Windows here? I hardly understand you.
>

Sorry, that was a little obfusticated. The contents of the pov program group is:

Licence Agreement
Pov-Ray for Windows
Uninstall Pov-Ray for Windows
Read Me
Tutorial and Reference Manual

This is fine if they are inside the Pov-Ray programs folder. However, if, for
example, I elected to add the program icons to an existing folder called
"graphics", I will then have 3 entries in "graphics" that could belong to any of
my graphics programs: Read Me, Tutorial.., and Licence...


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From: Anders K 
Subject: Re: Win install
Date: 7 Sep 2001 10:22:24
Message: <3b98d820$1@news.povray.org>
> > This is definately unnecessary.
>
> Have you ever installed Microsoft Office 2000? :)

Microsoft Office 2000, is itself unnecessary. :-)

Anders


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From: Trevor Quayle
Subject: Re: Win install
Date: 7 Sep 2001 10:23:34
Message: <3b98d866$1@news.povray.org>
I prefer it when the install asks me what I want and where.  I end up
rearranging my start menu, etc. according to my standards anyway though, so
I don't find it a big deal to do this yourself.  I assume most people
computer literate enough to try raytracing know how to change the start menu
(I'm talking windoze here)

-tgq

"Adrien Beau" <adr### [at] sycomorefr> wrote in message
news:3B98D346.8A27A1EF@sycomore.fr...
> Tom Melly wrote:
> >
> > Windows install (minor) gripe.
> >
> > 3 icons? One on the desktop, and 2 in the start menu? IMHO that's 2 too
many
>
> The POV-Ray sub-folder in Start > Programs is a bare minimum,
> that every Windows program has used since Windows 95.
>
> The POV-Ray icon in Start > Programs is perhaps redundant,
> but saves one mouse "move". Major applications (Office, etc.)
> use that also.
>
> I'm told some persons use the desktop, so putting an icon there
> is not a bad idea.
>
> So IMHO, that's eventually 1 too many.
>
> --
> Adrien Beau - adr### [at] freefr - http://adrien.beau.free.fr
>  Mes propos n'engagent que moi et en aucun cas mes employeurs


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Win install
Date: 7 Sep 2001 10:38:03
Message: <3b98dbca@news.povray.org>
Chris Cason <newsadmin@-despam-povray.org> wrote:
: I feel this is not excessive, considering how trivially easy it is to delete
: these (which is probably your best solution, no ???)

  That's nothing compared to realplayer. It's just plain crazy! It put itself
in every possible place! The desktop, they tray, the quickstart menu, the
start menu, the control panel, and of course in start/programs/realplayer.
  Such an intrusive program was so ANNOYING that I deleted it immediately.

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From: Trevor Quayle
Subject: Re: Win install
Date: 7 Sep 2001 10:51:18
Message: <3b98dee6$1@news.povray.org>
I know what you mean. At least POVRay doesn't install a hidden run command
to run when the system starts in your registry where only experienced users
can remove it.  I often find myself weeding through autoexec.bat, win.ini,
system.ini, registry, etc. to find out where the h*** the program has
inserted it's run command.

Or maybe this should be a feature request ;)

-tgq

"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
news:3b98dbca@news.povray.org...
> Chris Cason <newsadmin@-despam-povray.org> wrote:
> : I feel this is not excessive, considering how trivially easy it is to
delete
> : these (which is probably your best solution, no ???)
>
>   That's nothing compared to realplayer. It's just plain crazy! It put
itself
> in every possible place! The desktop, they tray, the quickstart menu, the
> start menu, the control panel, and of course in start/programs/realplayer.
>   Such an intrusive program was so ANNOYING that I deleted it immediately.
>
> --
> #macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
> rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
> ],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
> 7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Ben Chambers
Subject: Re: Win install
Date: 7 Sep 2001 12:28:08
Message: <3b98f598@news.povray.org>
I didn't even realize it put an icon on the desktop... shows how much I use
it :)  Seriously, any program I need often (POV, outlook, cdplayer...) I put
a shortcut on the quick launch bar.  I think you're right, though, that such
shortcuts are best left to the user to put in.

...Chambers


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Win install
Date: 7 Sep 2001 12:32:26
Message: <3b98f69a$1@news.povray.org>
"Ben Chambers" <bdc### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
news:3b98f598@news.povray.org...

> a shortcut on the quick launch bar.  I think you're right, though, that such
> shortcuts are best left to the user to put in.

On the other hand it gives us more chances to admire the new funky* logo, so
maybe it's not so bad...

* although not in the orig. sense.


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From: Ben Chambers
Subject: Re: Win install
Date: 7 Sep 2001 12:52:05
Message: <3b98fb35@news.povray.org>
"Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote in message
news:3b98f69a$1@news.povray.org...
> "Ben Chambers" <bdc### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
> news:3b98f598@news.povray.org...
>
> > a shortcut on the quick launch bar.  I think you're right, though, that
such
> > shortcuts are best left to the user to put in.
>
> On the other hand it gives us more chances to admire the new funky* logo,
so
> maybe it's not so bad...
>
> * although not in the orig. sense.


True, I really appreciate the new "artsy" look of POV-Ray :)  Makes it even
more enjoyable!  (I wonder if I could make the splash screen my desktop?
Hmm...)

...Chambers


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