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From: JRG
Subject: Re: unix version 3.5 ?
Date: 1 Nov 2001 14:42:34
Message: <3be1a5aa@news.povray.org>
Ok. I always confuse a member of the TAG with a member of the POV-team...

--
Jonathan.
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:3be1a389@news.povray.org...
> JRG <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> : If you fixed some bugs, why not?
>
>   Because it's not my duty to fix bugs by miself and distribute a "hacked"
> version of the beta. If someone reports a bug in that version which isn't
> really in the original version (ie. the bug is caused by me) that just
makes
> it more diffifult for the team to track.
>
> --
> #macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
> rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
> ],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
> 7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: unix version 3.5 ?
Date: 1 Nov 2001 21:44:34
Message: <3BE2089F.2D1C966F@pacbell.net>
JRG wrote:
> 
> Ok. I always confuse a member of the TAG with a member of the POV-team...

Just think of us as Santa's helpers.

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Ken Tyler - POV-Ray Technical Assistance Group


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From: JRG
Subject: Re: unix version 3.5 ?
Date: 2 Nov 2001 13:27:42
Message: <3be2e59e$1@news.povray.org>
Ken Tyler - POV-Ray Technical Assistance Group, wrote:

> Just think of us as Santa's helpers.

Yes, I like the idea of many little dwarfs being helping us from who knows
where...
(but this is a little OT...)


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: unix version 3.5 ?
Date: 5 Nov 2001 09:59:11
Message: <slrn9udaa1.906.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On 1 Nov 2001 12:45:29 -0500, Warp wrote:
> tontonTh <tth### [at] buvetteorg> wrote:
>: 	I have a Sun/Solaris box! Maybe I can grab a binary and
>: 	try to run it...  I'm also lookin for an HP-UX box...
> 
>   This is no problem to me. I can post the Solaris binary somewhere.
>   Is it ok?

I don't know.  I'm inclined to put my Linux binary somewhere too, with
minimal documentation, since I haven't heard anything (nothing at all!  Not
even a confirmation that it runs on their systems!) from my pre-beta
testers.  

Warp, let me get with Chris about this and find a place to put them that 
won't cause bandwidth problems for us.  Come find me in the other place and
we'll see what we can do about providing some Unix stuff.

-- 
plane{-z,-3normal{crackle scale.2#local a=5;#while(a)warp{repeat x flip x}rotate
z*60#local a=a-1;#end translate-9*x}pigment{rgb 1}}light_source{-9red 1rotate 60
*z}light_source{-9rgb y rotate-z*60}light_source{9-z*18rgb z}text{ttf"arial.ttf"
"RP".01,0translate-<.6,.4,.02>pigment{bozo}}light_source{-z*3rgb-.2}//Ron Parker


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: unix version 3.5 ?
Date: 5 Nov 2001 15:13:34
Message: <3BE6F2E0.B2E27C2B@gmx.de>
Ron Parker wrote:
> 
> I don't know.  I'm inclined to put my Linux binary somewhere too, with
> minimal documentation, since I haven't heard anything (nothing at all!  Not
> even a confirmation that it runs on their systems!) from my pre-beta
> testers.

I suppose this does not mean the 'regular' pre-beta testers, i have never
seen a linux version until now.

Christoph

-- 
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde>
IsoWood include, radiosity tutorial, TransSkin and other 
things on: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: unix version 3.5 ?
Date: 5 Nov 2001 15:41:54
Message: <slrn9uduck.97k.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On Mon, 05 Nov 2001 21:13:20 +0100, Christoph Hormann wrote:
> 
> 
> Ron Parker wrote:
>> 
>> I don't know.  I'm inclined to put my Linux binary somewhere too, with
>> minimal documentation, since I haven't heard anything (nothing at all!  Not
>> even a confirmation that it runs on their systems!) from my pre-beta
>> testers.
> 
> I suppose this does not mean the 'regular' pre-beta testers, i have never
> seen a linux version until now.

That is correct.  I asked for some help from the pre-beta folks, but nobody
replied so I looked elsewhere.  Given the amount of demand there is for a 
Linux version, you'd think it would be easier to find help with these things.
As it is, I'll probably be putting online real soon now a binary that is only
guaranteed to work on one Linux machine, mine, and that one doesn't run what
any sane person would call a standard distribution (Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 
with upgraded kernel, runtime, and compiler, and painfully recent versions 
of the standard graphics libs [1])

[1] Though I've heeded the advice of one TAG member who actually did report
back on his experiences and dropped back to the old PNG library in deference
to a certain broken package manager whose initials are RPM.

-- 
#macro R(L P)sphere{L F}cylinder{L P F}#end#macro P(V)merge{R(z+a z)R(-z a-z)R(a
-z-z-z a+z)torus{1F clipped_by{plane{a 0}}}translate V}#end#macro Z(a F T)merge{
P(z+a)P(z-a)R(-z-z-x a)pigment{rgbf 1}hollow interior{media{emission 3-T}}}#end 
Z(-x-x.2x)camera{location z*-10rotate x*90normal{bumps.02scale.05}}


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Subject: Re: unix version 3.5 ?
Date: 5 Nov 2001 17:18:01
Message: <3be70f68.2018313@news.povray.org>
On 5 Nov 2001 15:41:54 -0500, Ron Parker <ron### [at] povrayorg>
wrote:

>On Mon, 05 Nov 2001 21:13:20 +0100, Christoph Hormann wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Ron Parker wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't know.  I'm inclined to put my Linux binary somewhere too, with
>>> minimal documentation, since I haven't heard anything (nothing at all!  Not
>>> even a confirmation that it runs on their systems!) from my pre-beta
>>> testers.

I have a fresh Mandrake 8.1 Linux install right of the downloaded cd
images, but I'm _extremely_ new to linux or any other unix variant
(DKB-Trace 2.04 to POV-Ray 0.5 was last time I've used unix, and I
only learned enough unix commands to compile and run, ftp-ed files
back and forth to avoid learning a new editor). Letting me test will
require installing-for-dummies-type instructions.

/Erkki


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: unix version 3.5 ?
Date: 5 Nov 2001 17:53:12
Message: <3BE71851.78C4223C@gmx.de>
Ron Parker wrote:
> 
> That is correct.  I asked for some help from the pre-beta folks, but nobody
> replied so I looked elsewhere.  Given the amount of demand there is for a
> Linux version, you'd think it would be easier to find help with these things.

Although i could not find the relevant post i remember it was mainly about
the documentation, IIRC it was not clear what things exactly need to be
written.  

Concerning a linux binary release, this would surely be nice, but what
requires beta testing is IMO not so much the binary but the whole
distribution (including scene/include files and install script etc.)

Christoph

-- 
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde>
IsoWood include, radiosity tutorial, TransSkin and other 
things on: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: unix version 3.5 ?
Date: 5 Nov 2001 19:12:18
Message: <slrn9uean5.9b0.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On Mon, 05 Nov 2001 23:53:05 +0100, Christoph Hormann wrote:
> Concerning a linux binary release, this would surely be nice, but what
> requires beta testing is IMO not so much the binary but the whole
> distribution (including scene/include files and install script etc.)

Well, scene/include files are of course the same ones that you already get
with the Windows distro, and an install script might be a luxury that won't
be available for a while, since I'm not exactly the biggest Linux expert
myself.  I basically took this over on an interim basis until Mark Gordon
can work his way out from under the deluge of Real Life.  So, at least for
the duration of the beta, it's likely to be a binary and the extra files
and a smile and a handshake.

-- 
#macro R(L P)sphere{L F}cylinder{L P F}#end#macro P(V)merge{R(z+a z)R(-z a-z)R(a
-z-z-z a+z)torus{1F clipped_by{plane{a 0}}}translate V}#end#macro Z(a F T)merge{
P(z+a)P(z-a)R(-z-z-x a)pigment{rgbf 1}hollow interior{media{emission 3-T}}}#end 
Z(-x-x.2x)camera{location z*-10rotate x*90normal{bumps.02scale.05}}


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: unix version 3.5 ?
Date: 6 Nov 2001 03:59:27
Message: <3BE7A66E.E4646BD9@gmx.de>
Ron Parker wrote:
> 
> Well, scene/include files are of course the same ones that you already get
> with the Windows distro, and an install script might be a luxury that won't
> be available for a while, since I'm not exactly the biggest Linux expert
> myself.  I basically took this over on an interim basis until Mark Gordon
> can work his way out from under the deluge of Real Life.  So, at least for
> the duration of the beta, it's likely to be a binary and the extra files
> and a smile and a handshake.
> 

I understand, but then it's probably not very useful to try writing the
platform specific docs now.  They will mostly have to deal with the
supplementary files and not the binary itself.

Christoph

-- 
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde>
IsoWood include, radiosity tutorial, TransSkin and other 
things on: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/


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