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Has anyone ever set up a Microsoft Azure virtual machine to run POV-Ray?
I am interested, and am wondering how hard it would be, as well as the
cost. I *think* you can just rend a virtual machine with Windows on it
and set up whatever programs you want. But do you have to pre-select how
many CPU cores you need, or does it scale automatically to whatever your
current load is?
How is the cost calculated? By the flop, or clock time?
Mike
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Am 25.03.2017 um 21:03 schrieb Mike Horvath:
> Has anyone ever set up a Microsoft Azure virtual machine to run POV-Ray?
>
> I am interested, and am wondering how hard it would be, as well as the
> cost. I *think* you can just rend a virtual machine with Windows on it
> and set up whatever programs you want. But do you have to pre-select how
> many CPU cores you need, or does it scale automatically to whatever your
> current load is?
>
> How is the cost calculated? By the flop, or clock time?
They have a price calculator on the net.
Cores, memory and hard disk space per VM appear to be fixed, and pricing
appears to be by the minute of wall clock time.
Load adaptation appears to be implemented by dynamically adding virtual
machines.
Their wimpiest VM, without load adaptation, appears to cost about 12 EUR
for a total month.
They seem to be offering a free trial, valid for 30 days and services
worth up to about 170 EUR to 200 USD (apparently depending on your
country of origin).
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On 3/25/2017 4:58 PM, clipka wrote:
> Am 25.03.2017 um 21:03 schrieb Mike Horvath:
>> Has anyone ever set up a Microsoft Azure virtual machine to run POV-Ray?
>>
>> I am interested, and am wondering how hard it would be, as well as the
>> cost. I *think* you can just rend a virtual machine with Windows on it
>> and set up whatever programs you want. But do you have to pre-select how
>> many CPU cores you need, or does it scale automatically to whatever your
>> current load is?
>>
>> How is the cost calculated? By the flop, or clock time?
>
> They have a price calculator on the net.
>
> Cores, memory and hard disk space per VM appear to be fixed, and pricing
> appears to be by the minute of wall clock time.
>
> Load adaptation appears to be implemented by dynamically adding virtual
> machines.
>
> Their wimpiest VM, without load adaptation, appears to cost about 12 EUR
> for a total month.
>
>
> They seem to be offering a free trial, valid for 30 days and services
> worth up to about 170 EUR to 200 USD (apparently depending on your
> country of origin).
>
I was looking at those stats. The most they offer are 16 cores, which is
nothing really. I already have 4 cores and 4x that amount is not
phenomenal. I guess if it's cheap it's okay.
I have no clue how to set it up though. Do I have to install the OS on
the VM myself, or does it come with Windows already set up?
Do I just use it like a regular desktop OS, where I log into the GUI and
run the POV-Ray installer?
Will they save my image for later use, or do I have to repeat the whole
process each time?
Stack Exchange already chewed me out for asking such stupid questions.
Mike
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Am 25.03.2017 um 23:06 schrieb Mike Horvath:
> Stack Exchange already chewed me out for asking such stupid questions.
Stack Exchange seems to chew out everyone for pretty much any question
of practical relevance.
I'd chalk it up to an overly dogmatic reaction to earlier flame wars.
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On 3/25/2017 6:21 PM, clipka wrote:
> Am 25.03.2017 um 23:06 schrieb Mike Horvath:
>
>> Stack Exchange already chewed me out for asking such stupid questions.
>
> Stack Exchange seems to chew out everyone for pretty much any question
> of practical relevance.
>
> I'd chalk it up to an overly dogmatic reaction to earlier flame wars.
>
I'll try one more time.
https://superuser.com/questions/1192391/microsoft-azure-virtual-machine-services
Mike
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Okay, I am up and running. Specs:
Operating System
Windows Server 2012 R2 Datacenter 64-bit
CPU
Intel Xeon E5 v3 @ 2.40GHz
Haswell-E/EP 22nm Technology
Intel Xeon E5 v3 @ 2.40GHz
Haswell-E/EP 22nm Technology
RAM
32.0GB EDO @ 198MHz (3-3-3-?)
Motherboard
Microsoft Corporation Virtual Machine (None)
Graphics
Standard Monitor (1024x768@32Hz)
Microsoft Hyper-V Video
Storage
127GB Virtual HD ATA Device (ATA)
256GB Virtual HD ATA Device (ATA)
Optical Drives
Msft Virtual CD/ROM ATA Device
Audio
No audio card detected
Some notes:
1. $200 worth of free services during trial period.
2. $1.632/hr for Central United States. Rates vary depending on where
you are.
3. I'm not sure how to _totally_ turn off a VM and then restart it.
Quote: 'If the status says “Stopped (Deallocated),” you’re not being
billed. If it says “Stopped Allocated,” you’re still being billed for
allocated virtual cores (not the software license itself).' Have to
figure out what the difference is.
4. I think you get billed separately for usage and storage. Not sure if
this means virtual storage _inside_ the VM, or storage of the VM itself
on MS' servers. Do I need to delete the VM when I'm done using it to
keep from getting charged extra money?
5. You can link multiple VMs together, but I have no idea how to
configure POV-Ray to take advantage of this.
Mike
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Also, there is no real-time tracking of what/when you're getting billed.
Mike
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It seems Google offers $300 free credit that can be used over 12 months.
They also offer (I think) up to 64 virtual CPUs.
https://cloud.google.com/products/calculator/
Their price estimate calculator is a lot more complicated than Azure's.
Not sure how the costs work out. I think they offer discounts in off
peak hours, or in between heavy scheduled loads. (Not sure.)
Mike
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On 4/4/2017 11:52 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
> It seems Google offers $300 free credit that can be used over 12 months.
>
> They also offer (I think) up to 64 virtual CPUs.
>
> https://cloud.google.com/products/calculator/
>
> Their price estimate calculator is a lot more complicated than Azure's.
> Not sure how the costs work out. I think they offer discounts in off
> peak hours, or in between heavy scheduled loads. (Not sure.)
>
>
> Mike
I think a significant part of the cost would be the Windows OS license,
so using Linux instead would help a lot.
Mike
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I have been looking for a way to perform a lot of single core operations
remotely. But these cloud services feature some really bad single core
performance. In the 2GHz range I mean, which is slower than my home PC.
Mike
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