On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:25:06 +0100, Tom Melly wrote:
>"Dan Johnson" <zap### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
>news:3B288CF9.F9834DD1@hotmail.com...
>
><snip>
>
>IMHO it is forgivable to misspell in the body, but misspelling the subject line
>is a pain, since searches later on will suffer. "Hmm, wasn't there a recent post
>with 'tornado' in the subject - nope..."

My searches give equal weight to the body text, and the total relevance of
a particular post is proportional to how many times the search terms appeared.
So a search for "tornado" would turn up this post before any of the other 
posts on the subject, even without fixing the spelling in the subject line.

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> My searches give equal weight to the body text, and the total relevance of
> a particular post is proportional to how many times the search terms
appeared.
> So a search for "tornado" would turn up this post before any of the other
> posts on the subject, even without fixing the spelling in the subject
line.

But searches through only the subject are a lot faster than searches that
look through the bodies as well.

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On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:09:02 -0400, Daniel Lin wrote:
>> My searches give equal weight to the body text, and the total relevance of
>> a particular post is proportional to how many times the search terms
>appeared.
>> So a search for "tornado" would turn up this post before any of the other
>> posts on the subject, even without fixing the spelling in the subject
>line.
>
>But searches through only the subject are a lot faster than searches that
>look through the bodies as well.

That's highly platform- and archive-format-dependent:

[ron@fwi news]$ date;search -iindex/povray.off-topic qwyjibo;date
Wed Jun 13 15:37:53 EST 2001
# results: 0
Wed Jun 13 15:37:54 EST 2001
[ron@fwi news]$ ls povray/off-topic | wc -l
  26515

What this says is that I searched my entire archive of off-topic (26515
articles) in a second or so.  That includes subjects, authors, bodies, 
and everything else.  Surprisingly, nobody has mentioned the word
'qwyjibo' there yet.

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On 13 Jun 2001 16:51:59 -0400, Ron Parker wrote:
>What this says is that I searched my entire archive of off-topic (26515
>articles) in a second or so.  That includes subjects, authors, bodies, 
>and everything else.  Surprisingly, nobody has mentioned the word
>'qwyjibo' there yet.

Oh, yeah, this is a Pentium 200 with 96M of memory and a Quantum Bigfoot
hard drive.  The search would go more quickly on a machine with some 
horsepower.

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Ron Parker wrote:
> 
> On 13 Jun 2001 16:51:59 -0400, Ron Parker wrote:
> >What this says is that I searched my entire archive of off-topic (26515
> >articles) in a second or so.  That includes subjects, authors, bodies,
> >and everything else.  Surprisingly, nobody has mentioned the word
> >'qwyjibo' there yet.
> 
> Oh, yeah, this is a Pentium 200 with 96M of memory and a Quantum Bigfoot
> hard drive.  The search would go more quickly on a machine with some
> horsepower.
> 

But you are using an index that was generated before, a sequential search
through all files would take much longer even on a faster machine.

Christoph

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Christoph Hormann wrote:
> 
> Ron Parker wrote:
> >
> > On 13 Jun 2001 16:51:59 -0400, Ron Parker wrote:
> > >What this says is that I searched my entire archive of off-topic (26515
> > >articles) in a second or so.  That includes subjects, authors, bodies,
> > >and everything else.  Surprisingly, nobody has mentioned the word
> > >'qwyjibo' there yet.
> >
> > Oh, yeah, this is a Pentium 200 with 96M of memory and a Quantum Bigfoot
> > hard drive.  The search would go more quickly on a machine with some
> > horsepower.
> >
> 
> But you are using an index that was generated before, a sequential search
> through all files would take much longer even on a faster machine.

I doubt it... having all messages as text files with their names as the subject,
I could perform a pattern search through the whole text and it would give me
back the files that got that pattern but also the lines, having 10000 files of a
few kilo bytes would probably take a few seconds, 1-5 mins max...

time foreach f (`\ls News/*`)
> grep -n "My topic" $f


Although, this would be using the News directory of my system, but I use
netscape and therefore I can't search through files...  I'm thinking on using
some kind of fetchmail and fetchnews and use my plain old text programs such as
Emacs!


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On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:40:37 +0200, Christoph Hormann wrote:
>But you are using an index that was generated before, a sequential search
>through all files would take much longer even on a faster machine.

Of course.  As I said, how long it takes to search depends on how you
have it stored.

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Simon Lemieux wrote:
<snip> 
> Although, this would be using the News directory of my system, but I use
> netscape and therefore I can't search through files...  I'm thinking on using
> some kind of fetchmail and fetchnews and use my plain old text programs such as
> Emacs!
<snip>

Emacs supports images, I can't get any of the news readers for it to
work though.

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