I was unclear about just what lettering I plan to place around the logo.  :-(

I will be placing the words "Wright Brothers District" around the outside.  If I
end up having to do this individually leter-by-letter, then something like an
orbit function would come in handy!  Is this available in Moray, or is it only
available in Povray?

And yes, it made sense.  :-)

Jamie Davison wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:41:13 -0400, Cris Williams wrote...
> > I have attached my first attempt at raytracing and would appreciate any
> > suggestions that you might have.  It's not finished yet as there are a few
> > obvious fixes to make.  I need to move the ends of the red, white and blue
> > rings back so they aren't so close to the big "WBD" and I need to adjust the
> > MVC and BSA lettering on the bottom.  I will also be adding some lettering
> > around the outside of the logo once I figure out how.  :-)
>
> I was thinking about the lettering thing, and rather than creating each
> group of three letters as a string, try creating one placeholder letter,
> and using Edit->Duplicate and the orbit and rotate options to get the
> lettering truly concentric.
>
> I don't think that made much sense, did it?  <sigh> I know what I mean,
> and I could do it in about 5 minutes (time for fiddling and tweaking of
> settings.).  The only drawback could be that it may render slower for
> using 6 text objects rather than 2 (I could be wrong about that though)
>
> (Oh, and Followup set to moray.win)
>
> > This logo will be replacing a logo I did in PSP 6.  The old logo can be seen
> > at www.wbd-bsa.org.  I would like to make the new logo as realistic as
> > possible.  The scene was modeled in Moray except for the beveled "WBD",
> > which was done using Elefont and then imported into Moray as a UDO.  I am
> > using 6 point lights to illuminate the scene, but only I have only 2 of them
> > casting shadows because otherwise the "casting" texture on the logo gets
> > completely washed out.  Please be brutally honest with your opinions and
> > suggestions - you won't hurt my feelings!
>
> Well, since I do my mail offline, I haven't had a chance to look at the
> site you mentioned, but I like it, it's simple and clean.  And I like
> simple and clean :)
>
> Bye for now,
>      Jamie.

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Hi Cris Williams, you recently wrote in moray.win:

> I will be placing the words "Wright Brothers District" around the outside.  If I
> end up having to do this individually leter-by-letter, then something like an
> orbit function would come in handy!  Is this available in Moray, or is it only
> available in Povray?
Moray cannot place different objects in an orbit automatically. There
are two things that come to mind:

- Create a TrueType object, set the text to 'W' and place it where you
want the 'W' to be. Also rotate it into place. Then used the Orbit
function in the Duplicate dialog to make 23 copies (the length of your
string minus the already placed W). Select each object and enter the
correct letter.

- Create a TrueType object, set the text to 'W'. Switch to local
coordinates and move the coordinates down so that they are placed at
the pivot point of where you want the letters to be centered about.
Then use the Rotate function in the Duplicate dialog to create 23
copies. The again select each one and set the letter accordingly.

The first method will space the letters evenly on a circle, but you
will have to experiment with the degrees to use.

The second method can be hand-tuned, since you can place the letters
by rotating them individually.

Hope that helps,

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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Thank you, Lutz!  It's always nice to know how you're going to do something BEFORE you
start doing it.  By the way, the more I use Moray, the more I am impressed with it.
Excellent work!

Cris

Lutz Kretzschmar wrote:

> Hi Cris Williams, you recently wrote in moray.win:
>
> > I will be placing the words "Wright Brothers District" around the outside.  If I
> > end up having to do this individually leter-by-letter, then something like an
> > orbit function would come in handy!  Is this available in Moray, or is it only
> > available in Povray?
> Moray cannot place different objects in an orbit automatically. There
> are two things that come to mind:
>
> - Create a TrueType object, set the text to 'W' and place it where you
> want the 'W' to be. Also rotate it into place. Then used the Orbit
> function in the Duplicate dialog to make 23 copies (the length of your
> string minus the already placed W). Select each object and enter the
> correct letter.
>
> - Create a TrueType object, set the text to 'W'. Switch to local
> coordinates and move the coordinates down so that they are placed at
> the pivot point of where you want the letters to be centered about.
> Then use the Rotate function in the Duplicate dialog to create 23
> copies. The again select each one and set the letter accordingly.
>
> The first method will space the letters evenly on a circle, but you
> will have to experiment with the degrees to use.
>
> The second method can be hand-tuned, since you can place the letters
> by rotating them individually.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> - Lutz
>   email : lut### [at] stmuccom
>   Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:25:31 -0400, Cris Williams wrote...
> I was unclear about just what lettering I plan to place around the logo.  :-(

I always tend to find it useful to know what I'm going to try to do 
too...

> I will be placing the words "Wright Brothers District" around the outside.  If I
> end up having to do this individually leter-by-letter, then something like an
> orbit function would come in handy!  Is this available in Moray, or is it only
> available in Povray?

It's a function available in both, but the way I described it was a Moray 
function, not directly available in pure POV code.  Although the right 
transformations in the right order in POV code give the same end result.

> And yes, it made sense.  :-)

In which case, you are a very sick individual who should seek 
professional help immediately <grin>

Bye for now,
     Jamie.

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On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:49:35 -0400, Cris Williams wrote...
> Thank you, Lutz!  It's always nice to know how you're going to do something BEFORE
you
> start doing it.  By the way, the more I use Moray, the more I am impressed with it.
> Excellent work!

It's not always useful to know how you're going to do something before 
you do it.  I've had more 'fun'[1] trying to figure out how to do 
something than I've ever had from following a procedure I already knew.

[1] Yes, my sense of fun is seriously skewed when it comes to playing 
with Moray <grin>

Bye for now,
    Jamie.

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