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From: jhu
Subject: Re: Renewed homepage Voting problem
Date: 15 Jan 2015 13:10:00
Message: <web.54b8024c16764cf1bd7cae720@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> On 15/01/2015 08:11, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> > On 14-1-2015 19:39, Stephen wrote:
> >> On 14/01/2015 18:34, jhu wrote:
> >>> Is Thomas cheating again? lol
> >>
> >> Again? ;-)
> >>
> > I am always cheating! :-P
> >
>
> It is cheating not to cheat. :-)
>
>

If everyone is doing it, is it really cheating?


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Renewed homepage Voting problem
Date: 15 Jan 2015 14:20:08
Message: <54b812e8@news.povray.org>
On 15/01/2015 18:09, jhu wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>> On 15/01/2015 08:11, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> On 14-1-2015 19:39, Stephen wrote:
>>>> On 14/01/2015 18:34, jhu wrote:
>>>>> Is Thomas cheating again? lol
>>>>
>>>> Again? ;-)
>>>>
>>> I am always cheating! :-P
>>>
>>
>> It is cheating not to cheat. :-)
>>
>>
>
> If everyone is doing it, is it really cheating?
>
>
>
Only if you do it with one hand.


Hmm!

In a forest.


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     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Renewed homepage Voting problem
Date: 24 Jan 2015 08:19:34
Message: <54c39be6$1@news.povray.org>
On 13/01/2015 08:02, Stephen wrote:
> There is a problem when voting for one of the entries. The scores are
> not reflected in the overall voting page. And the site logic thinks that
> you have not voted for that entry.
> It would be better if no one voted until we get it fixed.
>
> Thanks for your patience.
>

There is another problem. The Challenge closed a day early So I have 
manually reopened it for another day. So that Christian and FractRacer* 
have the opportunity to vote and are not penalised.


* And anyone else who would like to join in.

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     Stephen


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From: Christian Froeschlin
Subject: Re: Renewed homepage Voting problem
Date: 25 Jan 2015 14:47:45
Message: <54c54861$1@news.povray.org>
On 24.01.2015 14:19, Stephen wrote:

> There is another problem. The Challenge closed a day early So I have
> manually reopened it for another day. So that Christian and FractRacer*
> have the opportunity to vote and are not penalised.

Well, I guess after that effort I just had to vote :)

BTW is there a way to get the full image from the rating overview page
without going through the entry page with description and everything?
It seems the process requires a lot of page reloads now for not much
benefit (in fact I would usually prefer not to read any description
before rating unless there is something doubtful in the image).


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From: FractRacer
Subject: Re: Renewed homepage Voting problem
Date: 25 Jan 2015 15:20:06
Message: <54c54ff6$1@news.povray.org>
Le 24/01/2015 14:19, Stephen a écrit :
> On 13/01/2015 08:02, Stephen wrote:
>> There is a problem when voting for one of the entries. The scores are
>> not reflected in the overall voting page. And the site logic thinks that
>> you have not voted for that entry.
>> It would be better if no one voted until we get it fixed.
>>
>> Thanks for your patience.
>>
>
> There is another problem. The Challenge closed a day early So I have
> manually reopened it for another day. So that Christian and FractRacer*
> have the opportunity to vote and are not penalised.
>
>
> * And anyone else who would like to join in.
>
Voted! In the time limit.

-- 
Lionel
Do not judge my words, judge my actions.

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Renewed homepage Voting problem
Date: 25 Jan 2015 15:31:41
Message: <54c552ad$1@news.povray.org>
On 25/01/2015 19:47, Christian Froeschlin wrote:

>
> Well, I guess after that effort I just had to vote :)
>
And it is appreciated. :-)

> BTW is there a way to get the full image from the rating overview page
> without going through the entry page with description and everything?

Not at the moment. But if you can describe how our developer could 
implement what you want, with still the option to read the description. 
I will put it to him.

> It seems the process requires a lot of page reloads now for not much
> benefit


Well it is a legacy system designed by a non computer professional.

  (in fact I would usually prefer not to read any description
> before rating unless there is something doubtful in the image).
>

As an aside. I find is useful to read what the entrant wrote. It helps 
me split the score.

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     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Renewed homepage Voting problem
Date: 25 Jan 2015 15:35:35
Message: <54c55397$1@news.povray.org>
On 25/01/2015 20:20, FractRacer wrote:

>>
> Voted! In the time limit.
>

Well done, old chap. :-)

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     Stephen


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From: Christian Froeschlin
Subject: Re: Renewed homepage Voting problem
Date: 25 Jan 2015 18:34:03
Message: <54c57d6b$1@news.povray.org>
On 25.01.2015 21:31, Stephen wrote:

> And it is appreciated. :-)

BTW I don't think I got an email notification for start of voting
period as I usually get for challenge 1. Is this intentional?

> Not at the moment. But if you can describe how our developer could
> implement what you want, with still the option to read the description.
> I will put it to him.

In the simplest case there could be the "Click here to show
uploaded (large) image" message that you find on the entry page
also on the overview page.

Although my intuitive expectation would be that a click on the
thumbnail shows the large image. That would leave a click on the entry
name as link to the entry page, or if that is too subtle to find maybe
an additional link "View entry details" or somesuch.

Alternatively if there was an option to download all images as
a zip that would also be convenient.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Renewed homepage Voting problem
Date: 25 Jan 2015 19:09:23
Message: <54c585b3$1@news.povray.org>
On 25/01/2015 23:34, Christian Froeschlin wrote:
> On 25.01.2015 21:31, Stephen wrote:
>
>> And it is appreciated. :-)
>
> BTW I don't think I got an email notification for start of voting
> period as I usually get for challenge 1. Is this intentional?
>

That is a manual operation and I think that we forgot because it was 
part of user testing.
Sorry, sorry, please forgive us. ;-)


>> Not at the moment. But if you can describe how our developer could
>> implement what you want, with still the option to read the description.
>> I will put it to him.
>
> In the simplest case there could be the "Click here to show
> uploaded (large) image" message that you find on the entry page
> also on the overview page.
>

Too simple for me. ;-)


> Although my intuitive expectation would be that a click on the
> thumbnail shows the large image. That would leave a click on the entry
> name as link to the entry page, or if that is too subtle to find maybe
> an additional link "View entry details" or somesuch.
>

Thomas and I will talk this over. In truth we don't want to ask the 
developer for too much as we are lucky when we gets his attention.

> Alternatively if there was an option to download all images as
> a zip that would also be convenient.

Hmm! that is a good idea. In the same vein,  I would like to change the 
voting page as well so that we can vote for everything at once instead 
of one at a time.

But as been mentioned before. The site is almost a charity case. When 
Steve Paget started TC-RTC as a temporary replacement for the IRTC he 
contacted a local web developer to set it up. When Steve died Thomas and 
I took over the running of the site. The cost is a peppercorn rent which 
means that I am wary of asking too much from the developer as he is 
often distant and does not reply to emails. Since we have his attention 
atm and I will certainly put this suggestion to him.



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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Renewed homepage Voting problem
Date: 26 Jan 2015 03:12:25
Message: <54c5f6e9@news.povray.org>
On 26-1-2015 1:09, Stephen wrote:
> On 25/01/2015 23:34, Christian Froeschlin wrote:
>> On 25.01.2015 21:31, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> And it is appreciated. :-)
>>
>> BTW I don't think I got an email notification for start of voting
>> period as I usually get for challenge 1. Is this intentional?
>>
>
> That is a manual operation and I think that we forgot because it was
> part of user testing.
> Sorry, sorry, please forgive us. ;-)

The real offender is me and I sprinkle my head with ashes :-) I somehow 
forgot to go through the correct and well-memorised callisthenics that 
come with Challenge 1.


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Thomas


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