So will the deadline be extended? I tried to connect
to the website and to the ftp site and both were dead
from about 7:30PM until I gave up at about 10:30 PM
(Pacific). Pretty sad to work so hard on something and
not be able to enter because of some glitch like that.
=Bob=

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In article <41863cbf@news.povray.org> , "=Bob=" 
<robertUNDERSCOREdobbinsATmailDOTtdsDOTnet> wrote:

> So will the deadline be extended? I tried to connect
> to the website and to the ftp site and both were dead
> from about 7:30PM until I gave up at about 10:30 PM
> (Pacific). Pretty sad to work so hard on something and
> not be able to enter because of some glitch like that.
> =Bob=

Are you certain it was not just a local connection problem?  You made a post
in irtc.stills at the same time, and as povray.org is on the same server,
the server apparently was available as you could post in these newsgroups
... either way, afaik you stand a better chance of discussing this on the
IRTC mailing lists.

    Thorsten

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"Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde> wrote in message
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: In article <41863cbf@news.povray.org> , "=Bob="
: <robertUNDERSCOREdobbinsATmailDOTtdsDOTnet> wrote:
:
: > So will the deadline be extended? I tried to connect
: > to the website and to the ftp site and both were dead
: > from about 7:30PM until I gave up at about 10:30 PM
: > (Pacific). Pretty sad to work so hard on something and
: > not be able to enter because of some glitch like that.
: > =Bob=
:
: Are you certain it was not just a local connection problem?  You made a post
: in irtc.stills at the same time, and as povray.org is on the same server,

It was really flaky. I could read some newsgroups, but some
were dead, povray.general being one I could not access.

: the server apparently was available as you could post in these newsgroups
: ... either way, afaik you stand a better chance of discussing this on the
: IRTC mailing lists.

I do not subscribe. I figured my picture would not be allowed to
be uploaded late, even with the circumstances. Just the way things
go for me.
=Bob=

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As a sidenote: I can only second that the servers were down. This morning
(8:00 till roughly 9:30, GMT+1 in Germany) the newsserver didn't respond. I
was able to get a few of the headlines, but that's it, the server wouldn't
respond and let me download any messages. =Bob=, I'd suggest entering it now
anyway, and along with this post it might still get through. The IRTC-Admins
are humans as well, after all. :-)

-- 
"Tim Nikias v2.0"
Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>

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"Tim Nikias" <JUSTTHELOWERCASE:timISNOTnikias(at)gmx.netWARE> wrote in message
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: As a sidenote: I can only second that the servers were down. This morning
: (8:00 till roughly 9:30, GMT+1 in Germany) the newsserver didn't respond. I
: was able to get a few of the headlines, but that's it, the server wouldn't
: respond and let me download any messages. =Bob=, I'd suggest entering it now
: anyway, and along with this post it might still get through. The IRTC-Admins
: are humans as well, after all. :-)

I appreciate your help Tim! I'm waiting for them to contact me. If
not, that's the way it goes. I'm not going to push it. It's not worth
making the IRTC-Admins upset.
=Bob=

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In article <4186941c@news.povray.org> , "Tim Nikias" 
<JUSTTHELOWERCASE:timISNOTnikias(at)gmx.netWARE> wrote:

> As a sidenote: I can only second that the servers were down. This morning
> (8:00 till roughly 9:30, GMT+1 in Germany) the newsserver didn't respond. I
> was able to get a few of the headlines, but that's it, the server wouldn't
> respond and let me download any messages. =Bob=, I'd suggest entering it now
> anyway, and along with this post it might still get through. The IRTC-Admins
> are humans as well, after all. :-)

As said, the server was fine all the time.  However, I have been told there
was some backbone router of one provider on the way to some locations
malfunctioning.  The backbone and routing is neither controlled nor owned by
the server administrator or host of the povray.org server (hosting
irtc.org).  It depends on many factors how traffic is routed through the
internet, and the route to an internet server is not under control a server.

It is best to understand as if there was a traffic jam somewhere on one
route from your computer to povray.org and your traffic was trying to take
that route.  As such, the best one can do is plead for an exception if one
is late, but ultimately -- just like in real-life -- it is up to the
individual to factor in time for traffic jams on the route(s) to an
appointment location.

    Thorsten

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"Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde> wrote in message
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: As said, the server was fine all the time.  However, I have been told there
: was some backbone router of one provider on the way to some locations
: malfunctioning.  The backbone and routing is neither controlled nor owned by
: the server administrator or host of the povray.org server (hosting
: irtc.org).  It depends on many factors how traffic is routed through the
: internet, and the route to an internet server is not under control a server.

The result is the same. I could not upload though I was uploading
within the timeframe.

: It is best to understand as if there was a traffic jam somewhere on one
: route from your computer to povray.org and your traffic was trying to take
: that route.  As such, the best one can do is plead for an exception if one
: is late, but ultimately -- just like in real-life -- it is up to the
: individual to factor in time for traffic jams on the route(s) to an
: appointment location.

The point is, there was no traffic jam, more like the bridge was
out. Tough to plan for that!

I'm not trying to get anyone to make special considerations. I've
already taken the attitude that this entry is dead now. No big
deal. But please -- don't act like I didn't do sufficient planning. I
did the planning, I've been planning for two months now. My
pic was rendering all this week, planning to upload on Sunday
evening. I tried to upload for over three hours. Sheesh!
=Bob=

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