In light of today's events, I dare say there should be a considerable amount of
heart-felt inspiration for the current IRTC topic now, if any should lack for an
idea. On some level it sickens me to make such an obvious statement, somehow
seeming 'tacky' with everything still so fresh. Groping in futility for some
silver lining, this is the best I could do though. But on another level, I think
maybe working with the images of the day will have some cathartic value. Judging
cold be a challenge, to say the least.

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"Batronyx" <bat### [at] cadronhsacom> wrote in message
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Tricky - I thought of suggesting that the current topic be changed. I certainly
wouldn't want to model anything directly portraying the events. It would seem a
little tacky to be worrying about the exact media settings for an explosion
under the current circs.

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> Tricky - I thought of suggesting that the current topic be changed. I
certainly
> wouldn't want to model anything directly portraying the events. It would
seem a
> little tacky to be worrying about the exact media settings for an
explosion
> under the current circs.

I do agree with you. I would change the topic for "hope".
Here from the Basque Country, where we all know the meaning and the effects
of terrorism and
the only thing we want is to live in peace, I send my condolences to all the
people who live in the
U.S.A.and strength to ease the pain they are suffering now.

Txemi Jendrix

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Tom Melly <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote:
: Tricky - I thought of suggesting that the current topic be changed. I certainly
: wouldn't want to model anything directly portraying the events.

  Why not? The problem will not go away by ignoring it.

  Newspapers and television are full of live images as well as pictures and
3D renderings. I see no problems in making rendered versions of the events
for the contest. Renderings of big catastrophes have been submitted before.

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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message news:3ba07380@news.povray.org...
>
>   Why not? The problem will not go away by ignoring it.
>

Ignoring it isn't really the issue, is it?

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Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message news:3ba07380@news.povray.org...
>   Newspapers and television are full of live images as well as pictures and
> 3D renderings. I see no problems in making rendered versions of the events
> for the contest. Renderings of big catastrophes have been submitted before.

True, but not usually whilst people are so distressed about those catastrophes.
Speaking for myself I would have no objection to people rendering these events,
but then I'm not one of the many people directly affected by these events. I
certainly won't be entering such a topical image, for fear of causing serious
offence.

That said, surely the whole point of the competition is that people get to
express their opinion of your image. If you make an image that people consider
in bad taste this will be reflected in the voting and the comments.

On the whole I don't mind if the topic is changed or not. Though I have come up
with a great idea for a scene (not related to the WTC incedent). I'm sure I can
adapt it if the topic changes.

Cheers.

--
Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com

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I wanted to stay out of this but I must add my 2 cents for what it's worth.
I don't see anything wrong with the current topic.  When the topic came out
originally at the beginning of September, there was lots of fighting and
terrorism occuring in the rest of the world, yet noone saw fit to complain
then.  If you feel it offends, skip this round and come back in November,
perhaps the topic then will be something that doesn't offend you.

-tgq


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"Trevor Quayle" <Tin### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
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> I wanted to stay out of this but I must add my 2 cents for what it's worth.
> I don't see anything wrong with the current topic.  When the topic came out
> originally at the beginning of September, there was lots of fighting and
> terrorism occuring in the rest of the world, yet noone saw fit to complain
> then.  If you feel it offends, skip this round and come back in November,
> perhaps the topic then will be something that doesn't offend you.
>

I don't think anyone has said that they feel offended - the point is not wanting
to cause distress for anyone else - shocking I know. Personally, I don't feel
strongly about this - but I am keen that those perhaps more directly affected
might not be happy with the topic. That said, no-one has come forward to say
that they feel the theme MUST be changed, so we can probably let this one lie.

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Tom Melly wrote:

> I don't think anyone has said that they feel offended - the point is not wanting
> to cause distress for anyone else - shocking I know. Personally, I don't feel
> strongly about this - but I am keen that those perhaps more directly affected
> might not be happy with the topic. That said, no-one has come forward to say
> that they feel the theme MUST be changed, so we can probably let this one lie.

In fact I got very mixed feelings about this. On one hand, my first reaction about
the topic in relation with the current events was "drop it". Not only I find it hard
to make something significant in this context, but there's the not-too-remote
possibility of people doing extremely tacky stuff, or extremely vindicative, or
works that could be a cause of distress. As far as I'm concerned, I'll postpone my
possible "warfare" piece as I'm just not in the mood to do it now and it would be
irrelevant.
On the other hand, as people who live in countries (like UK, Spain, France and
countless others) which have been regularly, or are still, under such attacks
already know, it's important to act as usual and to avoid changing our ways whenever
possible.

G.
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Gilles Tran wrote:

>
> On the other hand, as people who live in countries (like UK, Spain, France and
> countless others) which have been regularly, or are still, under such attacks
> already know, it's important to act as usual and to avoid changing our ways whenever
> possible.
>
>

Also, some artists use their art to help them digest the impact of disturbing current
events.  Picasso's "Guernica" for example.  To the extent that a perfectly valid entry
for "Warfare" might in fact glorify warfare, I can understand how it might seem
natural
to change the topic.  But warfare is an aspect of the human condition and as such
deserves our attention.  It is a serious topic that makes serious demands.  If
raytracing is to be taken seriously as an artform, it needs to meet such challenges.

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