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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: POV-Ray Editors
Date: 14 Jul 2017 08:53:40
Message: <59688694$1@news.povray.org>
Hi,

the current editor for the Windows version of POV-Ray is quite good, but
the only major lack it has is, that it comes only with 16 predefined
colors for usage within the editor. And most of these colors I don't
like, as they simply don't work well with the color scheme my Windows 7
is using.

Can't the developers add support for True Color to the editor? That
would be nice.

Or are there any other scene editors that can be integrated into the
Windows version of POV-Ray and allow a syntax with True Colors?

Thank you.

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From: clipka
Subject: Re: POV-Ray Editors
Date: 14 Jul 2017 15:25:51
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Am 14.07.2017 um 09:53 schrieb Sven Littkowski:

> the current editor for the Windows version of POV-Ray is quite good, but
> the only major lack it has is, that it comes only with 16 predefined
> colors for usage within the editor. And most of these colors I don't
> like, as they simply don't work well with the color scheme my Windows 7
> is using.

POV-Ray for Windows has multiple major lacks, but I wouldn't consider
this one of them. There are more serious problems.

> Can't the developers add support for True Color to the editor? That
> would be nice.
> 
> Or are there any other scene editors that can be integrated into the
> Windows version of POV-Ray and allow a syntax with True Colors?

To the best of my knowledge, the editor colour picker is an integral
part of CodeMax, which is a poor fit for the POV-Ray project, if only
due to the licensing issues, so presumably we won't invest any
noteworthy amount of work into it.

CodeMax is the only editor component the Windows GUI is designed to work
with, and the Windows GUI itself is horribly outdated in itself, so
presumably we won't invest a lot of work into that one either.

If we find the time to do any serious GUI development work, the plan is
to build a new one from scratch, using a portable GUI framework as the
basis (Qt comes to mind).


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: POV-Ray Editors
Date: 14 Jul 2017 18:10:03
Message: <web.5969082f8045b5dec437ac910@news.povray.org>
Is there any chance that something like an in-browser text editor could be used?
There seem to be quite a few of them.
Not sure how that would all work out with backwards-compatibility and whatnot.

https://www.google.com/search?q=browser+text+editor

I've always desired something like RTF, but I know how desirable it is to have a
simple text-only input for creating a render...


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: POV-Ray Editors
Date: 16 Jul 2017 20:19:26
Message: <596bca4e$1@news.povray.org>
Am 14.07.2017 um 20:06 schrieb Bald Eagle:
> Is there any chance that something like an in-browser text editor could be used?
> There seem to be quite a few of them.
> Not sure how that would all work out with backwards-compatibility and whatnot.
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=browser+text+editor
> 
> I've always desired something like RTF, but I know how desirable it is to have a
> simple text-only input for creating a render...

You can use /any/ text editor capable of saving plain vanilla ASCII
text. You could even use MS Word for that purpose.

A text editor capable of syntax highlighting would be of advantage of
course. But you may need to roll your own highlighting rules.

The difference of course is that it won't be an inbuilt editor, so
starting a render will be a bit more complex than just a button press.


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: POV-Ray Editors
Date: 25 Jul 2017 08:39:01
Message: <597703a5$1@news.povray.org>
On 14.07.2017 11:25, clipka wrote:
> Am 14.07.2017 um 09:53 schrieb Sven Littkowski:
> 
>> the current editor for the Windows version of POV-Ray is quite good, but

>> the only major lack it has is, that it comes only with 16 predefined
>> colors for usage within the editor. And most of these colors I don't
>> like, as they simply don't work well with the color scheme my Windows 7
>> is using.
> 
> POV-Ray for Windows has multiple major lacks, but I wouldn't consider
> this one of them. There are more serious problems.
> 
>> Can't the developers add support for True Color to the editor? That
>> would be nice.
>>
>> Or are there any other scene editors that can be integrated into the
>> Windows version of POV-Ray and allow a syntax with True Colors?
> 
> To the best of my knowledge, the editor colour picker is an integral
> part of CodeMax, which is a poor fit for the POV-Ray project, if only
> due to the licensing issues, so presumably we won't invest any
> noteworthy amount of work into it.
> 
> CodeMax is the only editor component the Windows GUI is designed to work
> with, and the Windows GUI itself is horribly outdated in itself, so
> presumably we won't invest a lot of work into that one either.
> 
> If we find the time to do any serious GUI development work, the plan is
> to build a new one from scratch, using a portable GUI framework as the
> basis (Qt comes to mind).
> 
I don't complain about any other faults of the editor, I rather like it.
A few ideas, however, i have suggested many months or over a year ago.

But the improvement about customization (colors), I would really be
happy to see that. As i said before: based on my Windows 7 color scheme,
those few colors of the editor just don't look good or have too low
contrast towards the Windows environment. I really beg for a color picker.

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: POV-Ray Editors
Date: 25 Jul 2017 08:50:42
Message: <59770662$1@news.povray.org>
On 7/25/2017 9:39 AM, Sven Littkowski wrote:
> I don't complain about any other faults of the editor, I rather like it.
> A few ideas, however, i have suggested many months or over a year ago.
>

It surprised me yesterday. It did a "Find & Replace" on an almost 800 
Meg text file.
None of my other text editors could handle the file.


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     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: POV-Ray Editors
Date: 25 Jul 2017 11:16:51
Message: <597728a3@news.povray.org>
On 25-7-2017 10:39, Sven Littkowski wrote:
> I don't complain about any other faults of the editor, I rather like it.
> A few ideas, however, i have suggested many months or over a year ago.
> 
> But the improvement about customization (colors), I would really be
> happy to see that. As i said before: based on my Windows 7 color scheme,
> those few colors of the editor just don't look good or have too low
> contrast towards the Windows environment. I really beg for a color picker.
> 
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I don't know. Using a Win7 environment myself, I am quite happy with the 
(standard) colour scheme proposed. What is the problem?

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: POV-Ray Editors
Date: 25 Jul 2017 12:54:03
Message: <59773f6b@news.povray.org>
On 7/25/2017 12:16 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 25-7-2017 10:39, Sven Littkowski wrote:
>> I don't complain about any other faults of the editor, I rather like it.
>> A few ideas, however, i have suggested many months or over a year ago.
>>
>> But the improvement about customization (colors), I would really be
>> happy to see that. As i said before: based on my Windows 7 color scheme,
>> those few colors of the editor just don't look good or have too low
>> contrast towards the Windows environment. I really beg for a color
>> picker.
>>
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>
> I don't know. Using a Win7 environment myself, I am quite happy with the
> (standard) colour scheme proposed. What is the problem?
>

Win7 here too. I always use a plain interface, myself. But I can see the 
requirement to have a fancy border. If that's what Sven means?
I am guess he is aware of how to customise the font, colour, shortcuts 
etc. There was some discussion about being able to use Truetype or 
Cleartype fonts a while back but we got a definitive answer with 
reasons. So it can't be that.



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     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: POV-Ray Editors
Date: 25 Jul 2017 13:02:57
Message: <59774181$1@news.povray.org>
On 7/25/2017 1:54 PM, Stephen wrote:
> I am guess he is aware of how to

Should read I guess he is...


It's not just my fingers playing up today. I'm beginning to hate 
Thunderbird with its fancy skins.

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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: POV-Ray Editors
Date: 27 Jul 2017 04:19:32
Message: <597969d4@news.povray.org>
On 25.07.2017 09:02, Stephen wrote:
> On 7/25/2017 1:54 PM, Stephen wrote:
>> I am guess he is aware of how to
> 
> Should read I guess he is...
> 
> 
> It's not just my fingers playing up today. I'm beginning to hate
> Thunderbird with its fancy skins.
> 

At the moment, I work with gray background, but this one and any other
background just looks not right. Since I do software programming, I work
since over 20 years with my own standard colors for the one or other
thing inside a syntax. But I cannot use "my" custom colors with the
editor at the moment. Thus I am not able to recognize things inside a
POV-Ray syntax based on the color code. Why such a big discussion about
such a small additional feature? It is not really difficult to add that
feature.

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