I just decide what will be my next notebook.

It will be a Gericom Silver Seraph
alias Compal 30T
alias Dell 3500

I can choose from several mobil CPU from
Intel.

The Pentium III is more than $100 more
expensive than the Celeron 550.

In comp.sys.laptops discussion, the effect
of the smaller second level cache is seen
between 5% and 10%.

Question: has somebody a compare table
about Povray performance on different
Celerons and Pentium III

( I was 1994 runing around with a POV floppy
  and tested every notebook with it,
  was my standard test :-)

So the Celeron 550 should be equal or
little bit faster than the Pentium III 500.

But the Celeon has not the 70 new SIMD
instructions.

Questions:
? uses Povray 3.1 this new SIMD
instructions
? Is it to expect that future pov version will
? what effect on speed do they have or is
expected that they will have at POV


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POV-Bench is probably the place to have a look around at:
http://www.haveland.com/index.htm?povbench/index.htm

Bob


|
| Question: has somebody a compare table
| about Povray performance on different
| Celerons and Pentium III

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>Questions:
>? uses Povray 3.1 this new SIMD
>instructions

No.

>? Is it to expect that future pov version will

Probably not.

>? what effect on speed do they have or is
>expected that they will have at POV


Probably none.

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"Bob Hughes" <per### [at] aolcom?subject=PoV-News:> wrote in message
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> POV-Bench is probably the place to have a look around at:
> http://www.haveland.com/index.htm?povbench/index.htm

Some times very confusing,
because maybe not at all entries
is declared, that more than one
CPU is used.

But fascinating.

I did first time raytraceing 1992 with DKB
to make some pictures for my book.

http://www.pege.org/gemini/dkb.htm

I borwoed a 486/33 because my
ATARI TT was so slow. Only one picture
with the ATARI, because of the 640 kb
limit in MS-DOS. I think 1:3 was the
486/33 faster.

1994 Dr.Weigel from ARS Electronica
invited me. He told me, that I have
1 week and a team of experts
in his institute for new media
in Frankfurt to make a movie about
the city of the future.

But it was much different :-)

I arrived in Frankfurt and they just
told me: Here is the computer
(a Silicon Graphic) and here is the
manual. It was not possible to make
all I want in this week, so I looked
for shareware and discovered POV
as newer version of DKB.

I created 1994 a 20 second video for
television. A part rendered on my
486 DX2/66 notebook but most
pictures on the pentium 90 of a friend.

My notebook would have used 500
hours by 1 hour per picture in
768 * 576 for television

http://www.pege.org/gemini/pov.htm
( a house turning after the sun)

The video was several times in Austrian
television and also on 3 SAT in the
broadcast "Mit der Kraft der Sonne"
(With the power of the sun)

Question: is there a history about
first television broadcast with POV
generated pictures?

I wanted to create a video about a city
in the future. But I discovered that
I need a solution for the shadow areas.
An array of 9*9 light sources was the
solution, but 1 picture in TV quality
was now 20 hours.

http://www.pege.org/gemini/villageh.htm

A calculation showed
20 hours * 25 pictures per second
* 300 seconds gives 150000 hours
on my notebook or 50000 hours on
a Pentium 90.

But when I look in the benchmark
on the top results about 250 times
faster than an old P90, the whole
video could be in only 200 hours.

It's frustrating, I have just right now
no time for it, but I hope next year,
I can invest some month in my
city of the future video project.


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news:39360583@news.povray.org...
| "Bob Hughes" <per### [at] aolcom?subject=PoV-News:> wrote in message
| news:3935b2f7@news.povray.org...
| > POV-Bench is probably the place to have a look around at:
| > http://www.haveland.com/index.htm?povbench/index.htm
|
| Some times very confusing,
| because maybe not at all entries
| is declared, that more than one
| CPU is used.
|
| But fascinating.

I know, I wonder how accurate or even true all those statistics are there
sometimes.  Not easy to understand the times without more information.
Although one was the IBM demonstration from a while ago which is stated on the
main page.

| I did first time raytraceing 1992 with DKB
| to make some pictures for my book.
|
| http://www.pege.org/gemini/dkb.htm

Seems not many people do this kind of thing for actual purposes other than art
for arts sake.
Great little historical account in your message post about your experiences
with POV.

| Question: is there a history about
| first television broadcast with POV
| generated pictures?

Any history of anything about POV might be difficult to find.  I find some
things about POV-Ray in the old PovZine at www.povray.org/povzine/  however
very little there.

| I wanted to create a video about a city
| in the future. But I discovered that
| I need a solution for the shadow areas.
| An array of 9*9 light sources was the
| solution, but 1 picture in TV quality
| was now 20 hours.
|
| http://www.pege.org/gemini/villageh.htm
|
| A calculation showed
| 20 hours * 25 pictures per second
| * 300 seconds gives 150000 hours
| on my notebook or 50000 hours on
| a Pentium 90.
|
| But when I look in the benchmark
| on the top results about 250 times
| faster than an old P90, the whole
| video could be in only 200 hours.
|
| It's frustrating, I have just right now
| no time for it, but I hope next year,
| I can invest some month in my
| city of the future video project.

Hopefully you can and will though.

Bob

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"Mark Wagner" <mar### [at] gtenet> wrote in message
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>

> >Questions:
> >? uses Povray 3.1 this new SIMD
> >instructions
>
> No.
>
> >? Is it to expect that future pov version will
>
> Probably not.
>
> >? what effect on speed do they have or is
> >expected that they will have at POV
>
> Probably none.

Thanks!

That makes the decision very easy for the Celeron.

I hate marketing hypes like
intelweboutfiter where You are asked first
to have a P3. It's like all other computers
are unuseable crap of the past.
And when even my ADSL is the most
limiting part for internet surfing, why should
only this 70 new instructions in a PIII make
internet an experience?

So I will wate with the order of my new notebook
until next week when Gericom has also the
mobil Celeron 550.

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