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On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 01:09:17 +0100, Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann wrote:
> Hi(gh)!
>
> On 09.11.2011 00:02, Jim Henderson wrote:
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>> Do you often build software on Linux?
>
> No - it's the very first time in my life (after one or two early aborted
> attempts in the past few years)!
>
>> If you don't, you might want to
>> start with a tutorial on how to build software in general before diving
>> in to build POVray.
>
> And where do I find such a tutorial (no, I don't believe in Google being
> my friend!)?
Google can tell you.
I could search for you, but you can search as easily as I can. It's not
a good use of my time to do searches for people that they can do for
themselves. :)
Try a search with words like "Linux compile tutorial". That should get
you started.
Jim
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On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 01:13:37 +0100, Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann wrote:
> Obviously, it is IMPOSSIBLE for an average DAU (to the non-German
> speakers: Most Stupid User To Assume!) to build any software under
> Linux!
No, it's not impossible, but it does require being willing to do your
homework.
For example, the question you asked about which version of Boost was
needed was answered in the INSTALL file I linked you to. Which file,
IIRC, is included in the source you downloaded.
Jim
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Le 09/11/2011 01:07, Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann a écrit :
firstly all went fine... until configure complained:
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> configure: error: cannot find a suitable ZLIB library
>
> What went wrong now? Or should I better first compile and install the
> whole boost v1.47 package from www.boost.org?
It's unrelated to boost.
You need a zlib library (oh, what, it's in the error message! ), the
-dev version of course.
something like zlib1g-dev on Ubuntu...
You can propably expect to also need the pictures' formats library also
in -dev version... start looking for :
libpng12-dev
libtiff4-dev
libjpeg62-dev
libopenexr-dev
... and so on (number and package name might vary with your distribution)
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From: Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann
Subject: Re: Compiling PoV-Ray 3.7 under Linux
Date: 9 Nov 2011 06:50:07
Message: <4eba68ef@news.povray.org>
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High!
On 09.11.2011 09:45, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> You need a zlib library (oh, what, it's in the error message! ), the
> -dev version of course.
>
> something like zlib1g-dev on Ubuntu...
Does not exist for my distro (Debian aptosid)! Should I instead just try
apt-get install zlib* ?
See you in Khyberspace!
Yadgar
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On 09.11.2011 09:45, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> You can propably expect to also need the pictures' formats library also
> in -dev version... start looking for :
> libpng12-dev
> libtiff4-dev
> libjpeg62-dev
> libopenexr-dev
> ... and so on (number and package name might vary with your distribution)
I mistook a "1" for an "l"... after correct that, configure went
flawless, but at the end of the "make check" process, I got a huge mass
of cryptic error messages, so "make install" did not work either.
No, I give up... or wait until I either can afford a second computer
running under Windows or the final release of 3.7 is published and
finally available as a Debian standard package! Too bad, no really good
looking indoor radiosity until at least next summer...
See you in Khyberspace!
Yadgar
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On 11/09/2011 07:29 AM, Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann wrote:
> On 09.11.2011 09:45, Le_Forgeron wrote:
>
>> You can propably expect to also need the pictures' formats library also
>> in -dev version... start looking for :
>> libpng12-dev
>> libtiff4-dev
>> libjpeg62-dev
>> libopenexr-dev
>> ... and so on (number and package name might vary with your distribution)
>
> I mistook a "1" for an "l"... after correct that, configure went
> flawless, but at the end of the "make check" process, I got a huge mass
> of cryptic error messages, so "make install" did not work either.
>
> No, I give up... or wait until I either can afford a second computer
> running under Windows or the final release of 3.7 is published and
> finally available as a Debian standard package! Too bad, no really good
> looking indoor radiosity until at least next summer...
>
> See you in Khyberspace!
>
> Yadgar
hey don't give up ... sounds like you're close. I'd be willing to bet
those last errors are related to the need for you to assume capabilities
other than just what your user account has ... heard of sudo?
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From: Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann
Subject: Re: Compiling PoV-Ray 3.7 under Linux
Date: 9 Nov 2011 09:55:57
Message: <4eba947d@news.povray.org>
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Hi(gh)!
> hey don't give up ... sounds like you're close. I'd be willing to bet
> those last errors are related to the need for you to assume capabilities
> other than just what your user account has ... heard of sudo?
Yes... but I did in fact all operations as root!
See you in Khyberspace!
Yadgar
Now playing: Going For The One (Yes)
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Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann <yaz### [at] gmx de> wrote:
> I'm about to give up...
*sigh* Why do you insist in doing it the hard way? I already recommended
you to free up some disk space and allow your linux distro to do all the
work for you. Just install the packages with 'apt-get' (or whatever your
distro's package manager is). It's basically a plug&play system.
--
- Warp
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Am 09.11.2011 02:09, schrieb Jim Henderson:
> On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 01:13:37 +0100, Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann wrote:
>
>> Obviously, it is IMPOSSIBLE for an average DAU (to the non-German
>> speakers: Most Stupid User To Assume!) to build any software under
>> Linux!
>
> No, it's not impossible, but it does require being willing to do your
> homework.
>
> For example, the question you asked about which version of Boost was
> needed was answered in the INSTALL file I linked you to. Which file,
> IIRC, is included in the source you downloaded.
I recall that when I first started using Linux (in order to run POV-Ray
on a separate machine, without having to pay for another copy of
Windows) there was stuff I just thought I couldn't figure out on my own
as well. While that feeling might have been wrong, it was there, and
comments like "I told you everything you need to know" weren't really
helpful in changing that emotion.
It's like being given a 5000-pieces jigsaw puzzle (without a reference
image) when all you want is a picture to hang on the wall. Getting
comments like "you have all the pieces to assemble the picture - all you
need is a little bit of diligence" from people who seem to have seen the
reference image a thousand times isn't much fun in that situation.
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On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 20:52:30 +0100, clipka wrote:
> I recall that when I first started using Linux (in order to run POV-Ray
> on a separate machine, without having to pay for another copy of
> Windows) there was stuff I just thought I couldn't figure out on my own
> as well. While that feeling might have been wrong, it was there, and
> comments like "I told you everything you need to know" weren't really
> helpful in changing that emotion.
>
> It's like being given a 5000-pieces jigsaw puzzle (without a reference
> image) when all you want is a picture to hang on the wall. Getting
> comments like "you have all the pieces to assemble the picture - all you
> need is a little bit of diligence" from people who seem to have seen the
> reference image a thousand times isn't much fun in that situation.
There's a difference between the questions you asked at the questions
Joerg is asking....
You asked questions after looking for the answers (I remember - I was one
of the ones who tried to help you).
Joerg is asking us to read the instructions for him. Which version of
boost is in the documentation in the source package he downloaded. Had
he read the documentation that is included with the sources, he wouldn't
have had to ask.
He then went on to ask for someone to write him a tutorial on how to
compile code on Linux, stating "Google isn't my friend". But a Google
search on the keywords I suggested turns up a good tutorial as the first
hit.
Now, why should *anyone* do Google searches for him for something that
trivial? Why should *anyone* have to read the instructions included in
the POVRay source to tell him what version of Boost to install - when
he's fully capable of reading those instructions himself?
I'm sorry, but the answer to those questions is emphatically *RTFM*. If,
after reading the instructions, you still have questions, then by all
means ask.
You took the time to try to find stuff first. You didn't understand what
you found, and asked questions about it.
Two entirely different situations.
Jim
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