Hola,

Has anyone had any experience with Ubuntu's version of Linux? Kind of had it 
MS and all those freekin' butches that end up breaking more than they fix. 
So I've decided to look start looking for alternatives. I came across Ubuntu 
while reading an article .... hey they price is right (free .... open 
source).... they even picked up the postage for the install CD's. Anyway 
.... if anyone has comments .... war stories .... whatever. I'd appreciate 
it.

Ciao Jim

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Jim Holsenback wrote:
> Hola,
> 
> Has anyone had any experience with Ubuntu's version of Linux? Kind of had it 
> MS and all those freekin' butches that end up breaking more than they fix. 
> So I've decided to look start looking for alternatives. I came across Ubuntu 
> while reading an article .... hey they price is right (free .... open 
> source).... they even picked up the postage for the install CD's. Anyway 
> .... if anyone has comments .... war stories .... whatever. I'd appreciate 
> it.
> 
> Ciao Jim 
> 

Ubuntu/Kubuntu seem to be about the most popular Linux distros available 
now.  (The difference between the two is the GUI desktop -- Ubuntu uses 
GNOME, Kubuntu uses KDE.  Arguments about which is better can lead to 
some major flame wars -- which I think are silly, they are both good and 
it's strictly a matter of personal preference.  FWIW, I happen to prefer 
GNOME, but KDE seems to be the more popular.  I have them both installed 
in Fedora and do use KDE occasionally but GNOME mostly.)

I have a minor quibble about the way Ubuntu/Kubuntu handle the root 
account, but that's because I'm more used to the standard usage in other 
distros.  Again, personal preference.

I have played around with both Ubuntu and Kubuntu but haven't really 
"used" them.  They are both very good but I tend to stick with 
RedHat/Fedora simply from habit/familiarity.  But overall, I have only 
heard very positive comments about Ubuntu/Kubuntu.  Especially for 
people coming directly from the Windows world.

In any case -- GO FOR IT!!!     ;-)

      -=- Larry -=-

PS.  FWIW, I have never gone to WinXP, and I absolutely refuse to go to 
Vista.  I'm currently using Win2k.

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"Larry Hudson" <org### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message 
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> I have played around with both Ubuntu and Kubuntu but haven't really 
> "used" them.  They are both very good but I tend to stick with 
> RedHat/Fedora simply from habit/familiarity.  But overall, I have only 
> heard very positive comments about Ubuntu/Kubuntu.  Especially for people 
> coming directly from the Windows world.

thanks for taking the time to reply ..... redhat/fedora also get's pretty 
good scores from what i've read but i'm on a shoe string budget so I imagine 
i'll settle for ubuntu and save my sheckles for hardware. i'm a hp-ux guy 
(back in the day) so the leap to linux shouldn't be to big of a deal. i 
orginally went to MS because my small business needed db tools that i felt 
were better (at the time) well that doesn't seem to be the case anymore as 
linux has matured. at any rate i'm looking forward to building myself a hot 
povray render machine .... again thanks for the feedback.

Jim

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OpenSUSE all the way here - also in your price range...

Jim

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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> OpenSUSE all the way here - also in your price range...

  In my computer suse had a better hardware support than ubuntu.

-- 
                                                          - Warp

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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
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> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> OpenSUSE all the way here - also in your price range...
>
>  In my computer suse had a better hardware support than ubuntu.

Thanks Jim and Warp .... I'll check it out!

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Jim Holsenback wrote:
> "Larry Hudson" <org### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message 
> news:46296de6$1@news.povray.org...
> 
>>I have played around with both Ubuntu and Kubuntu but haven't really 
>>"used" them.  They are both very good but I tend to stick with 
>>RedHat/Fedora simply from habit/familiarity.  But overall, I have only 
>>heard very positive comments about Ubuntu/Kubuntu.  Especially for people 
>>coming directly from the Windows world.
> 
> 
> thanks for taking the time to reply ..... redhat/fedora also get's pretty 
> good scores from what i've read but i'm on a shoe string budget so I imagine 
> i'll settle for ubuntu and save my sheckles for hardware.    .....

As to price, if you have broadband internet access (or know someone who 
does) you can download most distros for free -- including Fedora. 
Needless to say, don't try it with dial-up.  Check out distrowatch.com 
for links.

One other thing I could/should have mentioned -- POV-Ray for Linux is 
command-line only, no GUI interface.  Not difficult to use, but less 
convenient than the Windows version.  And it is easy to install, just 
run the install script (as root) and you're done.

      -=- Larry -=-

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On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 15:50:00 -0700, Larry Hudson wrote:

> Not difficult to use, but less
> convenient than the Windows version.

Convenience is a matter of preference - I find the Linux version more
convenient, because I don't have to start a GUI in order to render my file...

Jim

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On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:27:07 -0400, Warp wrote:

> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> [quoted text muted]
> 
>   In my computer suse had a better hardware support than ubuntu.

I'd say that's been my experience as well, but Ubuntu has just released an
update so theirs might be slightly ahead ATM.  That said, I've got
all the hardware working on my Thinkpad under 10.1, and I understand
docking station support improved in 10.2. I've even been playing with the
bluetooth adapter the last few days.

I migrated to SUSE from RedHat about 4 years ago, and I've been quite
happy with it.

Jim

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"Jim Holsenback" <jho### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Has anyone had any experience with Ubuntu's version of Linux?

I've been running Ubuntu since at least 3 iterations.  I'm still running the
older Hoary Hedgehog or something like that.  I actually tried more recent
iterations but I have all my favorite apps and utilities installed already
and don't have broadband, so... plus, it still runs as fine as ever and I'm
not really enthusiastic about flashy stuff like 3D translucent desktops and
whatnot.

I guess Ubuntu is one of the most accessible desktop Linux ever.  But I've
still had a fair bit of command-line fun for setting up such things as
dial-up connection:  it's targetted at broadband people and forgot old hags
like me... :P

My povray setup involves typing the scenes in vi (syntax highlight, word
completion, keyboard macros etc) and calling my custom povscript from the
shell to render the scene.  Fast and lean...

It's a good alternative to get away from the M$ blackhole.

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