On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:08:26 +0200, Eero Ahonen wrote:

> How about combination of echo, cat, grep, tail, head? ;)

That works.  Long command lines with lots of pipes. ;-)

> Well yes, I usually write my SDL with Vim and Nano.

I haven't gotten to that point yet - most of what I do is just goofing
around with a modeller myself (like Moray, Blender, or Wings) just to see
what I can come up with visually.  One of these days, I'll sit down and
learn SDL properly so I can do that.

I was once an engineering student, had to learn drafting and CAD, and most
of the time that helps me.  But I mentioned "vi" because (a) it's my
favourite editor, and (b) the comment about "there's nothing you can't do

you can't do with vi or cat > file.pov for that matter, it's just a matter
of patience.

But I also think there are probably things you can't do with a modeller,
like write procedural POV code for (for example) certain types of textures.  :-)

Jim

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Jim Henderson wrote:
> I was once an engineering student, had to learn drafting and CAD, and most
> of the time that helps me.  But I mentioned "vi" because (a) it's my
> favourite editor, and (b) the comment about "there's nothing you can't do
> with Wings" ("or Blender") seemed to beg the comment that there's nothing
> you can't do with vi or cat > file.pov for that matter, it's just a matter
> of patience.

Heh. My idea of point was that while Vi is a good text editor, it's not
a modeler (which was asked;). Yes, theoretically you can do any
POV-scene with Vi (as well as CSG), but a modeler is a lot easier to
think visually while doing the scene (like Poser is a darn lot easier to
create a person than with CSG). IMO the best set would be a modeler,
which reads SDL so you could write SDL / walk the mouse in turns.

> But I also think there are probably things you can't do with a modeller,
> like write procedural POV code for (for example) certain types of textures.  :-)

Yep. That's why a combination would be best/easiest/most efficient (if
it's possible, please let me know). It's already possible to create the
scene with modeler and tweak it with pure SDL.

> Jim


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On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 18:55:55 +0200, Eero Ahonen wrote:

> Heh. My idea of point was that while Vi is a good text editor, it's not a
> modeler (which was asked;). Yes, theoretically you can do any POV-scene
> with Vi (as well as CSG), but a modeler is a lot easier to think visually
> while doing the scene (like Poser is a darn lot easier to create a person
> than with CSG). IMO the best set would be a modeler, which reads SDL so
> you could write SDL / walk the mouse in turns.

True, I kinda diverged there a bit. :-)  But yes, that's exactly the
reason I prefer to use a modeler rather than write straight SDL.

> Yep. That's why a combination would be best/easiest/most efficient (if
> it's possible, please let me know). It's already possible to create the
> scene with modeler and tweak it with pure SDL.

Yes, some of the best scenes I've seen look to have been done that way.

Jim

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