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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:36:19 -0600, Neeum Zawan wrote:
> On 11/19/09 12:03, Eero Ahonen wrote:
>> I talked with Bliz about wave in IRC yesterday. I think we came to the
>> conclusion that if Google releases the protocol as a free one, it might
>> be pretty good system. Otherwise, if it stays leaning to only Google,
>> it's not a system I want to use.
>
> The plan _is_ to release the protocol for free. Is there some
> technicality that I'm unaware of?
The protocol is actually available now; Novell are developing a server
for use in the enterprise space called "Pulse" using the specifications
that are already out there....
Jim
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Neeum Zawan wrote:
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> The plan _is_ to release the protocol for free. Is there some
> technicality that I'm unaware of?
Ok. I'm not aware of everything, haven't had inspiration to dig through
all the docs etc. This is the first time I've heard of planning to
releasing the protocol itself, which IMO sounds good.
>> From the moment I tried using it, I actually did have to choose the
>> recipients. I didn't find a way eg. search for a wave and join in, OTOH
>
> Nor did you search for the POV-Ray newsgroups. You found it by going
> to the POV-Ray web site. Same thing here.
Well yes, but after adding news.povray.org to my newsreader and
subscribing to povray.binaries.images I could read also the messages
from the past. The messages which wasn't sent especially to me, since
no-one here knew I even existed. This is not possible with mailing
lists, if otherwise available archives aren't counted in.
Even today, you didn't choose me to be recipient of this message, nor
did gregjohn at the beginning of the thread (which, in my understanding,
equals a wave). Still I can see both these messages, since I've
subscribed to a group, which this thread is sent to.
From wave I've got the impression that it works like a mailing list, but
holding information of message threading.
-Aero
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On 11/20/09 14:12, Eero Ahonen wrote:
> Neeum Zawan wrote:
>> The plan _is_ to release the protocol for free. Is there some
>> technicality that I'm unaware of?
>
> Ok. I'm not aware of everything, haven't had inspiration to dig through
> all the docs etc. This is the first time I've heard of planning to
> releasing the protocol itself, which IMO sounds good.
Umm...OK. I wrote my comment a bit defensively because I assumed you
knew more than I did.
You've not seen the original video highlighting Google Wave? They said
it right from the first "unveiling" that the protocol will be open, as
will most of the source code. The protocol has been out there since I
first heard of Google Wave...
> Well yes, but after adding news.povray.org to my newsreader and
> subscribing to povray.binaries.images I could read also the messages
> from the past. The messages which wasn't sent especially to me, since
> no-one here knew I even existed. This is not possible with mailing
> lists, if otherwise available archives aren't counted in.
Yes, but it *is* possible with Google Wave. That's one of the cool
things they claimed (and demonstrated). If you're having a conversation
with 2-3 people, and add another one later on (or one joins later on),
he can see the whole history.
> Even today, you didn't choose me to be recipient of this message, nor
> did gregjohn at the beginning of the thread (which, in my understanding,
> equals a wave). Still I can see both these messages, since I've
> subscribed to a group, which this thread is sent to.
Same should be true with Wave as they claimed it.
> From wave I've got the impression that it works like a mailing list, but
> holding information of message threading.
Nope. All the things you've said is what they claimed it will be able
to handle (and a few of those things were demonstrated in that video).
Maybe not all of it is available yet on the Beta version, though.
--
Two robins were sitting in a tree. `I'm really hungry`, said the first
one. `Me, too` said the second. `Let's fly down and find some lunch.`
They flew to the ground and found a nice plot of plowed ground full of
worms. They ate and ate and ate and ate `til they could eat no more.
`I'm so full I don't think I can fly back up to the tree`, said the
first one. `Me either. Let's just lay here and bask in the warm sun`,
said the second. `O.K.` said the first. They plopped down, basking in
the sun. No sooner than they had fallen asleep, a big fat tom cat snuck
up and gobbled them up. As he sat washing his face after his meal, he
thought, `I just love baskin` robins.`
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On 11/17/2009 11:49 AM, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> SharkD wrote:
>> How about Google Code? Is that similar to Sourceforge?
>
> Yes, it is.
>
>> Does it integrate with Google Wave?
>
> I don't know of *anything* that integrates with Wave at this point.
>
I like all the Google apps I've tried so far. If Wave could be
integrated with Code, then I'd be favorably inclined toward the move.
Mike
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Neeum Zawan wrote:
>
> You've not seen the original video highlighting Google Wave? They
> said it right from the first "unveiling" that the protocol will be open,
> as will most of the source code. The protocol has been out there since I
> first heard of Google Wave...
I've seen parts of it. I didn't hear it, since Flash is unable to
realize more than 1 sound outputs. The plain image didn't give out much,
while the shooting is styled fashionable and the quality is crap.
> Yes, but it *is* possible with Google Wave. That's one of the cool
> things they claimed (and demonstrated). If you're having a conversation
> with 2-3 people, and add another one later on (or one joins later on),
> he can see the whole history.
Ah, that is something that didn't come out in the short testing. But as
I told, the system didn't work correctly. There might be more
alpha-stage problems than what it seemed.
> Same should be true with Wave as they claimed it.
Check above, same goes here.
> Nope. All the things you've said is what they claimed it will be
> able to handle (and a few of those things were demonstrated in that
> video). Maybe not all of it is available yet on the Beta version, though.
That sounds good, we'll see what'll grow out of it.
-Aero
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I also now got a google wave invite, so nya ha ha.
I have 8 invitations remaining. Any takers?
--
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.freesitespace.net
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why not?
On 28-11-2009 10:39, Tim Cook wrote:
> I also now got a google wave invite, so nya ha ha.
>
> I have 8 invitations remaining. Any takers?
>
> --
> Tim Cook
> http://empyrean.freesitespace.net
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andrel wrote:
> why not?
Recommendation for invitation submitted.
--
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.freesitespace.net
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On 28-11-2009 14:37, Tim Cook wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> why not?
>
> Recommendation for invitation submitted.
>
> --
> Tim Cook
> http://empyrean.freesitespace.net
thanks
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news:4b10efb7$1@news.povray.org...
>I also now got a google wave invite, so nya ha ha.
>
> I have 8 invitations remaining. Any takers?
I'm interested too.
Gilles
>
> --
> Tim Cook
> http://empyrean.freesitespace.net
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