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>> Some of us can't draw that well with a *real* pen. :-/
>
> I love to draw ever since a child. In my youth, comics were my goal in
> life... :D
I love to draw too - the difference is, *I* suck at it. :-/
When I was a kid, I used to draw cubes, perspective drawings, buildings,
anything with lots of parallel lines on it. Sadly my disfunctional
little brain can't cope with anything else...
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Orchid XP v8 escreveu:
>>> Some of us can't draw that well with a *real* pen. :-/
>>
>> I love to draw ever since a child. In my youth, comics were my goal
>> in life... :D
>
> I love to draw too - the difference is, *I* suck at it. :-/
>
> When I was a kid, I used to draw cubes, perspective drawings, buildings,
> anything with lots of parallel lines on it. Sadly my disfunctional
> little brain can't cope with anything else...
bwahaha, I suck at parallel lines... :P
Perhaps your brain is disfunctional by now because of too much Haskell? ;)
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nemesis wrote:
> Fun and joy! Just got me one of these
> http://www.wacom.com/bamboo/bamboo_fun.php
> this last sunday. Truly worth it! Mouse no more!
> It's like drawing with the real thing, be it chalk, guache, pencil or ink...
> some sketches of mine:
>
> http://i38.tinypic.com/9sf4o2.jpg
> http://i34.tinypic.com/rhtsur.gif
> http://i35.tinypic.com/351z801.gif
>
> I'm yet to learn more painting technique to truly put the Gimp to fire... but oh
> man, love it! Was it Stephen who was advocating for tablets? You nailed it,
> man!
Nice sketches.
I'm seriously thinking about buying this! Is it difficult to tell where
your strokes will end up in relation to your current drawing? How about
the precision, is it truly good?
As it is now, I end up making a lot of annoyingly loud clicking sounds
when painting digitally. Does the stylus have noisy buttons? Or do you
simply press down on the pad to apply paint strokes? And how about
scroll-wheel capabilities? In the Gimp I always keep a hand on the
keyboard and a finger on the scroll wheel to pan, zoom, etc.
A lot of questions, but I'm getting excited about this!
If I get this, I'll have to post some images of my own ;)
Sam
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:33:26 -0200, nemesis wrote:
> Jim Henderson escreveu:
>> The only thing is that it hasn't turned me into Da Vinci or
>> Michaelangelo yet. ;-)
>
> Those guys had none of such babysitting techs around and yet provided
> much richer art than most of today's art. Our buildings are geometric
> and flat, our art abstract and noisy, our music all but drums, screams
> and noise. Much better tools, much worse artists. Some say limitations
> are an advantage for creativity and I tend to agree. A blank sheet
> staring at me is an invitation to expression (as is a blinking cursor
> :).
That's an interesting perspective - and one I would tend to agree with.
There are a few rare gems in modern society, but I do wonder historically
how many artists there were who never "floated to the top" and were just
mediocre.
Jim
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:49:06 -0700, stbenge wrote:
> I'm seriously thinking about buying this! Is it difficult to tell where
> your strokes will end up in relation to your current drawing?
Not really; the stylus uses absolute positioning, and with the apps I
tend to use (gimp, inkscape, other similar packages), the cursor provides
you with a reference as to where you are before you touch the stylus to
the pad.
> How about
> the precision, is it truly good?
Precision is excellent with my Intuos4.
Jim
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stbenge escreveu:
> Nice sketches.
thanks!
> I'm seriously thinking about buying this! Is it difficult to tell where
> your strokes will end up in relation to your current drawing? How about
> the precision, is it truly good?
It's really good. Like I said to Darren above, I thought I'd feel
awkward by drawing on a surface and looking at another surface for the
result, but it simply goes smooth and natural, like drawing on paper.
The cursor is there exactly at the point where you'd see your
pencil/brush and there's no apparent lag between your moves and what
happens on screen.
I'm really surprised you don't have a tablet! Your Gimp paintings in
your website are good enough as they are! o_O then again, you're a true
craftsman... :)
My best efforts so far with mouse only came to this:
http://i37.tinypic.com/2it1oit.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/2u95pcp.jpg
I had to draw a few bezier curves to help me limit the drawings to a
certain region...
> As it is now, I end up making a lot of annoyingly loud clicking sounds
> when painting digitally. Does the stylus have noisy buttons? Or do you
> simply press down on the pad to apply paint strokes?
You rover it above the tablet and it moves the cursor, you touch the
surface and it's click/draw (with precise and amazing pressure).
Better: the other tip of the stylus can be used to select another brush
(most commonly the eraser). So you flip the pen and it immediately
gives you one of two different active brushes/tools. :)
BTW, in that first drawing I didn't have pressure set in the Gimp. Only
later I realized how to set it up. With the paintbrush and a dissolve
layer, it's truly friggin' astounding...
> And how about
> scroll-wheel capabilities? In the Gimp I always keep a hand on the
> keyboard and a finger on the scroll wheel to pan, zoom, etc.
There's a button at the lower part. You push it from a distance while
on canvas and you can grab it around. When off canvas and in other apps
it's equivalent to right-click to select popup menus.
> A lot of questions, but I'm getting excited about this!
It's truly exciting. Funny thing is, I only came back to gimp because
decided it would be a good time to finally learn UV-mapping in Blender
and draw my own texture maps. Then I started doodling and became
furious at the mouse and searched around to see the state of tablets. I
found an online store physically close to where I live, phoned them and
asked for my choice of tablet and price, took a bus without wait and in
30 minutes was back home with a nice box. :)
Still had to wait some 4 hours while upgraded Ubuntu (2 times!) for it
to work out-of-the-box (though not multitouch and the scroll button at
the top seemingly only scrolls upward).
> If I get this, I'll have to post some images of my own ;)
We're all surely waiting for it. :)
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Jim Henderson escreveu:
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:49:06 -0700, stbenge wrote:
>
>> I'm seriously thinking about buying this! Is it difficult to tell where
>> your strokes will end up in relation to your current drawing?
>
> Not really; the stylus uses absolute positioning, and with the apps I
> tend to use (gimp, inkscape, other similar packages), the cursor provides
> you with a reference as to where you are before you touch the stylus to
> the pad.
It's excellent to choose colors from a pallete too. :)
>> How about
>> the precision, is it truly good?
>
> Precision is excellent with my Intuos4.
That's even a much more professional one! I imagine the drawing area is
larger as well. :)
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:24:27 -0200, nemesis wrote:
> Jim Henderson escreveu:
>> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:49:06 -0700, stbenge wrote:
>>
>>> I'm seriously thinking about buying this! Is it difficult to tell
>>> where your strokes will end up in relation to your current drawing?
>>
>> Not really; the stylus uses absolute positioning, and with the apps I
>> tend to use (gimp, inkscape, other similar packages), the cursor
>> provides you with a reference as to where you are before you touch the
>> stylus to the pad.
>
> It's excellent to choose colors from a pallete too. :)
Yes, this is also very true. :-)
>>> How about
>>> the precision, is it truly good?
>>
>> Precision is excellent with my Intuos4.
>
> That's even a much more professional one! I imagine the drawing area is
> larger as well. :)
Yeah, I got the 6x8 (the Intuos4 medium tablet). I wanted the lit OLED
buttons, and a patch just was submitted for the Linux driver to allow me
to use them. I'll be testing that on Friday probably. :-)
Jim
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:20:44 -0200, nemesis wrote:
> BTW, in that first drawing I didn't have pressure set in the Gimp. Only
> later I realized how to set it up. With the paintbrush and a dissolve
> layer, it's truly friggin' astounding...
I'm wondering what you did to set it up - for me, I get pressure controls
inside various tools, but if there's another place to set it up (I also
get tilt with my tablet, don't know if the bamboo has that or not - but
it's pretty cool to use the caligraphic tools with tilt enabled on the
stylus).
But if there's someplace else to do setup, one of the things I want to
use it for is touching up photos/repairing old photos, and it sounds like
what your'e doing with the dissolve layer might work well for some of the
repair I need to do.
Jim
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nemesis wrote:
> stbenge escreveu:
>> I'm seriously thinking about buying this! Is it difficult to tell
>> where your strokes will end up in relation to your current drawing?
>> How about the precision, is it truly good?
>
> It's really good. Like I said to Darren above, I thought I'd feel
> awkward by drawing on a surface and looking at another surface for the
> result, but it simply goes smooth and natural, like drawing on paper.
> The cursor is there exactly at the point where you'd see your
> pencil/brush and there's no apparent lag between your moves and what
> happens on screen.
Great news, all of it.
> I'm really surprised you don't have a tablet! Your Gimp paintings in
> your website are good enough as they are! o_O then again, you're a true
> craftsman... :)
Thanks! Yeah, I've not bought a tablet yet because it seemed like a
frivolous purchase. But since I have some money to spend, and I know
I'll be using a tablet all the time, I think I can afford to buy one ;)
> My best efforts so far with mouse only came to this:
> http://i37.tinypic.com/2it1oit.jpg
> http://i37.tinypic.com/2u95pcp.jpg
Not too bad. Drawing with the mouse is very difficult.
> I had to draw a few bezier curves to help me limit the drawings to a
> certain region...
I usually make a freehand polygonal selection and round out the corners
with the smudge tool. It's faster than using bezier curves. There's
nothing like technical difficulties to quench inspiration :P
> Better: the other tip of the stylus can be used to select another brush
> (most commonly the eraser). So you flip the pen and it immediately
> gives you one of two different active brushes/tools. :)
Dang, it's sounding better all the time.
>> A lot of questions, but I'm getting excited about this!
>
> It's truly exciting. Funny thing is, I only came back to gimp because
> decided it would be a good time to finally learn UV-mapping in Blender
> and draw my own texture maps.
You probably already know this, but Blender now has support for
projection painting. This makes painting directly onto objects much
easier, although the tool set is very limited.
> Then I started doodling and became
> furious at the mouse and searched around to see the state of tablets. I
> found an online store physically close to where I live, phoned them and
> asked for my choice of tablet and price, took a bus without wait and in
> 30 minutes was back home with a nice box. :)
I hope I can buy one with paypal. I live very far away from any
electronic stores. On the plus side, we get several feet of snow each
year :)
Sam
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