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From: JeffBTX
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 20:10:00
Message: <web.4a319c2afcfd56f39e7bfff70@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford <"m[raiford]!at"@gmail.com> wrote:
> (Dang! 4 replies to one post by the OP....)
>
> My post is mostly tongue in cheek.
>
> JeffBTX wrote:
> > Accuracy;
> > The full SUB-title was "How I learned to stop worrying and learned to love the
> > bomb.". The TITLE of the movie was "Doctor Strangelove". A fiction. An
> > entertainment. A parody, actually. I have it on DVD by the way, excellent
> > movie. To paraphrase a fiction (especially this type of fiction, in the context
> > that you used it) in an attempt to prove a point detracts from the validity of
> > your post. It looks foolish.
>
> It all depends on who you ask, of course.

This is really beyond debate. He almost quoted the flouride (oops I mean
fluoride - flouride is what they put in bread) talk word- for- word. Of course,
I see your point, I think... if I talk to a tinfoil-hat person long enough, he
or she would try to convince me that the government is REALLY run by the evil
corporate toothpaste-manufactoring corporations, and that storing socks in a
freezer is NOT foolish.

>
> > understand, but to force government officials to do their jobs. Do their jobs
> > efficiently, with competence, and with the welfare of the people and the
> > country a priority (rather than other agendas).
>
> Competency and efficiency in the government? Not a chance.

As you said, your post here is mostly tongue in cheek. In context, my post is
mostly pitchfork in cheek. That is, there is a CHANCE that if the military took
over Washington, and started repeatedly poking congressmen's rears with
pitchforks, then maybe the government would work with competency and
efficiency. Watching C-SPAN would also become more amusing.'

>
> > Logic;
> > Okay... it may very well be that some people sometime who have ingested
> > flouridated water at some point might have experienced some vague symptoms
> > similar to what you describe. I don't know. But how many MILLIONS (billions?)
> > of "flouridated people" have lived long, healthy lives without ill effect? Your
> > post is alarmist.
>
> Not only that, but those fluoridated people also have strong, healthy
> teeth.

I admit it. I am fluoridated. But I drink too much coffee. My teeth probably
don't LOOK that healthy, and they are probably anxiety ridden, depressive,
hyperactive, and insomnia ridden. Of course, I realize you are referring to the
fluorinated, NON-caffeinated people with their blazing teeth. Again, I apologize
for the spelling error - I meant to refer to the fluorine compound, NOT some
derivative of wheat.

>
> > If it worries you, water filtration systems are fairly cheap and convenient.
> > Those Brita Water Pitchers come to mind.
>
> They also make tap water much better tasting IMO, especially if you're
> in a region where the tap water is not very good. Better yet, reverse
> osmosis, but because it is so effective at removing all contaminants
> (even natural occurring minerals) from the water, watch out for water
> intoxication.
>
> --
> ~Mike

Lewis Black the comedian had something to say (I saw this on the Comedy
Channel). "Look for the water with bits of fat floating around in it. THATS the
TASTY water, right there!"


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 21:05:01
Message: <web.4a31a8b9fcfd56f3ae1654840@news.povray.org>
"JeffBTX" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> ...
> In context, my post is
> mostly pitchfork in cheek. That is, there is a CHANCE that if the military took
> over Washington, and started repeatedly poking congressman's rears with
> pitchforks, then maybe the government would work with competency and
> efficiency. Watching C-SPAN would also become more amusing.'

The thought had occurred to me when I first realized what they are intentionally
or stupidly doing, not that intent is very easily proven but supported by the
profit margin.

> Lewis Black the comedian had something to say (I saw this on the Comedy
> Channel). "Look for the water with bits of fat floating around in it. THATS the
> TASTY water, right there!"

I have a cousin named Jeff, one of the biggest hearts in the family, and I
believe that is the reason for his grand sense of humor. Really starting to
like you, mainly for the first quoted paragraph. I am still waiting for it to
happen tho.

Thanks for correcting that movie title, I just couldn't remember it. What would
you guys do without me, you'd have less to make fun of.

Couple of reasons the gods stopped the royal blood lines, Jesus fell into
violence, so did the royal blood lines, and with dark souls in power, think of
the growth these people would achieve when they finally find the backbone to
take a stand.


Its all a grand manipulation, and if you can't understand that, you are gonna
get really pissed off, eventually if not already. Just a matter of time ...


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 22:48:27
Message: <4a31c1fb$1@news.povray.org>
alphaQuad wrote:
> Real Americans V. The Plague
> 
> When a REAL American sees a topic they don't agree with, they usually ignore it

> of view, I'll defend to my death your right to say it".


1) I don't think Warp's a "Real American."  Isn't he Scandinavian?  (I 
could be wrong about that, Warp, no offense meant!)

2) Why do you think that "Real American"s would quote British 
paraphrasing of French philosophers?

3) Have you watched "Dr Strangelove" in its entirety?  Do you realize 
that his fixation with Flouride was chosen specifically because it was 
so unbelievable as a conspiracy?

-- 
Chambers


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 23:55:00
Message: <web.4a31d131fcfd56f3e8e18e680@news.povray.org>
Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom_no_underscores> wrote:

> 1) I don't think Warp's a "Real American."  Isn't he Scandinavian?  (I
> could be wrong about that, Warp, no offense meant!)

Great I don't have worry about him sneaking into my room at night. ;) sorry Warp
just kiddin :) ... or am I? :-0

> 2) Why do you think that "Real American"s would quote British
> paraphrasing of French philosophers?

Guaranteed right by the constitution and the alternative is total domination and
no way out by communication on any large scale. But with co-conspiring media
that has been achieved to a substantial degree.

> 3) Have you watched "Dr Strangelove" in its entirety?

No, that was the only line I caught but was "juggling eggs at the time".

> Do you realize
> that his fixation with Fluoride was chosen specifically because it was
> so unbelievable as a conspiracy?

It was only "unbelievable" at the time because the information revolution had
not yet begun and supporting evidence was only available to those able to
afford a decent chemistry education. Small amounts do only little damage. In
the long run tho it only builds until you must have medicine, eventually
craving the Real McCoy of medicine at the price of gold!

Sorry to disappoint, but there is a disappointing profiteering theme in their
actions, found again and again, make no mistake. A vicious profiteering cycle
of poisoning you and if you go to the doctor, they get another chance to poison
you with prescription sulfides and fluorides by doctors who only paid their way
thru a chemistry test.

At the worst shortening your life span and at best one will become excitable
enough and get violent, and if they catch you with real medicine they have the
added pleasure of getting to torture with a horrifying incarceration. Must I
describe that as well?

Who the hell believes torture is justice for using god given medicine and
hurting no one? That is just sick. Actually punishment never did one bit of
good, and only solidifies resistance to authority. Only a true idiot believes
in such barbaric control tactics when with only one drop of love you can get a
true kind and legitimate message across.


"Truth is stranger than fiction"
"No Such thing as fiction"

Iodine increases Basil Metabolic Rate, the equivalent of shorting your life
span. Throw out your iodized salt! I know what you've been taught, don't bore
me with that.

Compazine a sulfide pesticide, is prescribed for something as simple nausea
causing a host of neurological diseases including grand mal epileptic seizures.

Fluoride "anti-psychotic" is prescribed for sleeplessness, something you're sure
to experience once you're well fluoridated. What can't sleep? Here, have some
more fluoride!

Just coincidence? Just wishful thinking.

with love oh yes with love,
aQ


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 12 Jun 2009 01:26:20
Message: <4a31e6fc$1@news.povray.org>
alphaQuad wrote:
> Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom_no_underscores> wrote:
>> 2) Why do you think that "Real American"s would quote British
>> paraphrasing of French philosophers?
> 
> Guaranteed right by the constitution and the alternative is total domination and
> no way out by communication on any large scale. But with co-conspiring media
> that has been achieved to a substantial degree.

Maybe I'm "The Plague" instead of a "Real American," but I can't even 
understand your above paragraph.

-- 
Chambers


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 12 Jun 2009 02:15:00
Message: <web.4a31f1cffcfd56f345334fe80@news.povray.org>
Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom_no_underscores> wrote:
> alphaQuad wrote:
> > Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom_no_underscores> wrote:
> >> 2) Why do you think that "Real American"s would quote British
> >> paraphrasing of French philosophers?
> >
> > Guaranteed right by the constitution and the alternative is total domination and
> > no way out by communication on any large scale. But with co-conspiring media
> > that has been achieved to a substantial degree.
>
> Maybe I'm "The Plague" instead of a "Real American," but I can't even
> understand your above paragraph.
>
> --
> Chambers

It is doubtful you are the plague, you made way too many intelligent points and
I am the worst communicator on the planet. Just pick out the larger words.

And don't forget Viagra is a sulfide and will get you up for a short period of
use until yours fails permanently. No experience here to verify my educated
guess. Any lab rats out there, taking crap just because it is "FDA Approved"?


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 12 Jun 2009 02:26:04
Message: <4a31f4fc$1@news.povray.org>
JeffBTX wrote:
> First; CAUTION with that term "REAL American". What is a REAL American? I could
> easily say that the only REAL Americans are those that have sacrificed and
> endured hardships for their country - as opposed to civilians who haven't (and
> wouldn't). My paternal grandmother, who grew up on a Navajo reservation in New
> Mexico, might say that the only REAL Americans are Native Americans. Rush
> Limbaugh would say that the only REAL Americans are card-carrying registered
> Republicans - EVEN if they are hypocritical drug addicts who are addicted to
> pain killers, and apparantly eat enough food to result in an enormous girth,
> enough food in one week to probably keep a small family alive for a month or
> more.
> 
> Accuracy;
> The full SUB-title was "How I learned to stop worrying and learned to love the
> bomb.". The TITLE of the movie was "Doctor Strangelove". A fiction. An
> entertainment. A parody, actually. I have it on DVD by the way, excellent
> movie. To paraphrase a fiction (especially this type of fiction, in the context
> that you used it) in an attempt to prove a point detracts from the validity of
> your post. It looks foolish.
> 
> By the way, another favorite classic of mine is "Seven Days in May". Personally,
> I root for General James Mattoon Scott. Being a military retiree, and a
> stereotypical "angry, disillusioned veteran", that would be no suprise. I would
> be DELIGHTED to see a large force march on Pennsylvania Avenue, and "kick some
> rear". NOT in/for a military takeover (as such) (or maybe, YES!), you
> understand, but to force government officials to do their jobs. Do their jobs
> efficiently, with competence, and with the welfare of the people and the
> country a priority (rather than other agendas).
> 
> Logic;
> Okay... it may very well be that some people sometime who have ingested
> flouridated water at some point might have experienced some vague symptoms
> similar to what you describe. I don't know. But how many MILLIONS (billions?)
> of "flouridated people" have lived long, healthy lives without ill effect? Your
> post is alarmist.
> 
> As to " ... wanting you silenced ... "; I don't know the details, but I CAN
> sympathize. Recently, in a games forum, a supposed "vietnam veteran" (who
> served maybe 2 years) who's "life was saved by the VA" (Veterans
> Administration) banned me from his games server for criticizing the VA. In the
> forum, he stated that I "should move to another country" (along with other
> insults). Me - who served in the military for 22 years. My criticism was based
> on MY experience with the VA, on my SPECIFIC case, and I had just as much right
> to an opinion as he did. This person (it became apparant as time went on) is a
> petty hypocrite with a tin god complex - an "anti-veteran veteran" - who just
> wanted to "show off". My critical comment was a ONE-LINER, embedded within a
> post on another subject altogether.
> 
> But in the long run, one is happier if one just forgets about it. So what? There
> are other things in life that are far more worthy of attention.
> 
> Far more dangerous to society are those that "go off half cocked", and force
> invalid concepts on society that in the long run have no real, tangible effect
> and cost everyone hard earned money.
> 
> If it worries you, water filtration systems are fairly cheap and convenient.
> Those Brita Water Pitchers come to mind.

I'm not real american (perhaps a real south american), but this was a 
top notch reply.


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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 12 Jun 2009 06:31:30
Message: <4a322e82$1@news.povray.org>
alphaQuad wrote:
>> Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom_no_underscores> wrote:
>>> alphaQuad wrote:
>>> Guaranteed right by the constitution and the alternative is total domination and
>>> no way out by communication on any large scale. But with co-conspiring media
>>> that has been achieved to a substantial degree.
>> Maybe I'm "The Plague" instead of a "Real American," but I can't even
>> understand your above paragraph.
> It is doubtful you are the plague, you made way too many intelligent points and
> I am the worst communicator on the planet. Just pick out the larger words.

Picking out the larger words (>5 letters):
"Guaranteed constitution alternative domination communication. 
Co-conspiring achieved substantial degree."

...I think we've been had.  Clearly, this is a more sophisticated 
attempt at subliminal messaging than we've realised!

--
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.freesitespace.net


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 12 Jun 2009 08:15:00
Message: <web.4a3245e3fcfd56f35fd99d9e0@news.povray.org>
"alphaQuad" <alp### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:
> Real Americans V. The Plague
>
> When a REAL American sees a topic they don't agree with,

They bomb the Feck out of it?
They cry (foul)?

What is real?
What is American?
What is a *real American*?


The mulberry bush, the mulberry bush

So early in the morning

This is the way we wash our face


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 12 Jun 2009 08:59:43
Message: <4a32513f$1@news.povray.org>
alphaQuad wrote:

> 
> just trying to make convo, how many is a quarter dozen?
> 

I'm sure you can do the basic arithmetic to figure that out ;)



-- 
~Mike


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