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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 13:41:26
Message: <4A3141C6.7080807@hotmail.com>
On 11-6-2009 17:55, alphaQuad wrote:
> Real Americans V. The Plague
> 
> When a REAL American sees a topic they don't agree with, they usually ignore it

> of view, I'll defend to my death your right to say it".
> 
> The plague of mankind will try to silence someone when his or her meager
> intellect is threatened by a new idea. Like the Jews wanted Jesus silenced,
> like Warp and Jim Henderson want me silenced. And apparently it is the Truth
> that is most unacceptable to these types.

I think you misunderstood them. Their point was something along the line 
of: There is no point in reiterating a discussion especially if the only 
point seems to be to restart a flaming competition. That may not have 
been your intention but if so that was not clear from your post.

Discussions can be reopened only if new facts become available or new 
and interesting points of view are presented.

Warp is well known for being allergic to discussions about religion and 
in particular when conservative Christians might come under attack. As 
such you can disregard his opinion, it is well-known and found 
irrelevant by a sufficiently large sub-population here.

Also be careful with statements like 'Like the Jews wanted Jesus 
silenced' there are people here that know enough of what actual happened 
in biblical times to dispute that. Again, we have had that discussion 
before, so there is no need to reopen the debate. KTHXBYE

[snipped the usual conspiracy theories]


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 13:50:00
Message: <web.4a3142a2fcfd56f3ae1654840@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford <"m[raiford]!at"@gmail.com> wrote:
> alphaQuad wrote:
> > Real Americans V. The Plague
>

>
> Did you forget to take your meds again?
>
> --
> ~Mike

Hi Mike, I have an older brother named Mike. He once took a kitten and
repeatedly threw it out the second story window into the swimming pool, then
running down the stairs and grabbing the poor thing before it could get away
only to repeat the torture. He would not stop until I threatened to tell
someone.

As for meds? Your kind has made it too difficult get real meds, so you see it
has nothing to do with memory.

Thanks for the moronic post! :)


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 14:00:01
Message: <web.4a31460dfcfd56f3ae1654840@news.povray.org>
andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

> before, so there is no need to reopen the debate. KTHXBYE

Point taken and accepted, but if I can stop one person from being poisoned by
the FDA, I'll consider it an accomplishment. Thank you my dear Andrel


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 14:15:00
Message: <web.4a3148f6fcfd56f3ae1654840@news.povray.org>
"JeffBTX" <nomail@nomail> wrote:

> Far more dangerous to society are those that "go off half cocked", and force
> invalid concepts on society that in the long run have no real, tangible effect
> and cost everyone hard earned money.


"force invalid concepts", Earth to Jeff, come in Jeff!

"cost everyone hard earned money" Yah right I cost people money by posting
information. No words come to mind to describe the level of BS you post.


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 14:20:01
Message: <web.4a314a73fcfd56f3ae1654840@news.povray.org>
"JeffBTX" <nomail@nomail> wrote:

> Logic;
> Okay... it may very well be that some people sometime who have ingested
> flouridated water at some point might have experienced some vague symptoms
> similar to what you describe. I don't know. But how many MILLIONS (billions?)
> of "flouridated people" have lived long, healthy lives without ill effect? Your post
is alarmist.

Better logic;
How much happier and longer would they live without it? How many fewer school
massacres would there be without fluoride?


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 14:35:00
Message: <web.4a314d94fcfd56f3ae1654840@news.povray.org>
"JeffBTX" <nomail@nomail> wrote:

> As to " ... wanting you silenced ... "; I don't know the details, but I CAN
> sympathize. Recently, in a games forum, a supposed "vietnam veteran" (who
> served maybe 2 years) who's "life was saved by the VA" (Veterans
> Administration) banned me from his games server for criticizing the VA. In the
> forum, he stated that I "should move to another country" (along with other
> insults). Me - who served in the military for 22 years. My criticism was based
> on MY experience with the VA, on my SPECIFIC case, and I had just as much right
> to an opinion as he did. This person (it became apparant as time went on) is a
> petty hypocrite with a tin god complex - an "anti-veteran veteran" - who just
> wanted to "show off". My critical comment was a ONE-LINER, embedded within a
> post on another subject altogether.

My condolences for your VA plight and appreciation for your service to your
country. You Sir obviously have some stories to tell. Trying to silence someone
is wrong, immature and about 50 other adjectives I'll not go into, by WHATEVER
method is employed.


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 14:50:01
Message: <web.4a3150effcfd56f3ae1654840@news.povray.org>
andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

> Warp is well known for being allergic to discussions about religion and
> in particular when conservative Christians might come under attack. As
> such you can disregard his opinion, it is well-known and found
> irrelevant by a sufficiently large sub-population here.
>

Slightly suggestive that my passion of the Christ post was an attack on
religion, I don't believe you suggest this, but could be construed as such.
Attacking religion was never any intention of my post.

If the shoe fits, am I to blame for their shoe size?


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 15:00:00
Message: <web.4a3153affcfd56f3ae1654840@news.povray.org>
andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

> Also be careful with statements like 'Like the Jews wanted Jesus
> silenced' there are people here that know enough of what actual happened
> in biblical times to dispute that.

Well lets talk about that for second. I suppose they wanted to give him a
megaphone instead?

It is my logic, that the temper tantrum of Jesus was the coffin nail as it were.

And certainly it was not ALL Jews and therein lies the trouble with the wording.
My bad. My wife is part Jewish and apparently Jesus a full-blood. Also I Love
Ben Stein!


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 15:04:59
Message: <4a31555b@news.povray.org>
alphaQuad wrote:

> Hi Mike, I have an older brother named Mike. He once took a kitten and
> repeatedly threw it out the second story window into the swimming pool, then
> running down the stairs and grabbing the poor thing before it could get away
> only to repeat the torture. He would not stop until I threatened to tell
> someone.

Soo.... Mental illness runs in the family?
*Tosses a handful troll-kibble on the floor*

> As for meds? Your kind has made it too difficult get real meds, so you see it
> has nothing to do with memory.

I have done nothing of the sort. You're the one with the rampant paranoia.

> Thanks for the moronic post! :)
> 

Oh, you're quite welcome. I have plenty more where that came from.

*Spreads another handful of troll-kibble across the floor*

-- 
~Mike


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 11 Jun 2009 15:13:42
Message: <4a315766@news.povray.org>
(Dang! 4 replies to one post by the OP....)

My post is mostly tongue in cheek.

JeffBTX wrote:
> Accuracy;
> The full SUB-title was "How I learned to stop worrying and learned to love the
> bomb.". The TITLE of the movie was "Doctor Strangelove". A fiction. An
> entertainment. A parody, actually. I have it on DVD by the way, excellent
> movie. To paraphrase a fiction (especially this type of fiction, in the context
> that you used it) in an attempt to prove a point detracts from the validity of
> your post. It looks foolish.

It all depends on who you ask, of course.

> understand, but to force government officials to do their jobs. Do their jobs
> efficiently, with competence, and with the welfare of the people and the
> country a priority (rather than other agendas).

Competency and efficiency in the government? Not a chance.

> Logic;
> Okay... it may very well be that some people sometime who have ingested
> flouridated water at some point might have experienced some vague symptoms
> similar to what you describe. I don't know. But how many MILLIONS (billions?)
> of "flouridated people" have lived long, healthy lives without ill effect? Your
> post is alarmist.

Not only that, but those fluoridated people also have strong, healthy 
teeth.

> If it worries you, water filtration systems are fairly cheap and convenient.
> Those Brita Water Pitchers come to mind.

They also make tap water much better tasting IMO, especially if you're 
in a region where the tap water is not very good. Better yet, reverse 
osmosis, but because it is so effective at removing all contaminants 
(even natural occurring minerals) from the water, watch out for water 
intoxication.

-- 
~Mike


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