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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: you & me right now, warp
Date: 23 Feb 2009 11:08:02
Message: <49a2c9e2@news.povray.org>
>>>> You can't post through Gname, only read.
>>> Really?  Because I participate in a number of lists through gmane and I
>>> participate by posting there.  And I get responses....
>>>
>>> Arguably, that might be something the list moderator can set, but it
>>> seems all that you need to do is subscribe to the list (some lists are
>>> subscriber only) and then post to the newsgroup using the e-mail
>>> address you subscribed with.  That *should* work in every case.
>> Really? That's interesting... I can't even see a button for posting a
>> message.
> 
> Using a newsreader?
> 
> You do realise you can connect to news.gmane.org with Thunderbird, yes?

...you can *do* that?? o_O


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: you & me right now, warp
Date: 23 Feb 2009 12:08:30
Message: <49a2d80e$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:08:02 +0000, Invisible wrote:

>>>>> You can't post through Gname, only read.
>>>> Really?  Because I participate in a number of lists through gmane and
>>>> I participate by posting there.  And I get responses....
>>>>
>>>> Arguably, that might be something the list moderator can set, but it
>>>> seems all that you need to do is subscribe to the list (some lists
>>>> are subscriber only) and then post to the newsgroup using the e-mail
>>>> address you subscribed with.  That *should* work in every case.
>>> Really? That's interesting... I can't even see a button for posting a
>>> message.
>> 
>> Using a newsreader?
>> 
>> You do realise you can connect to news.gmane.org with Thunderbird, yes?
> 
> ...you can *do* that?? o_O

It *is* a mail-to-news gateway.....

Have a look at the FAQ....or the "About" link.

Jim


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: you & me right now, warp
Date: 23 Feb 2009 12:15:00
Message: <web.49a2d98398eaac14accdd5660@news.povray.org>
andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> See, p.o-t never disappoints when talking about whatever sort of music.
> There are always people who know about it. I now know that there are
> some here that know and appreciate Moving Hearts, Blackmore's Night and
> von Bingen. I can't remember any reaction when I mentioned Eric Bogle or
> Meav, but no doubt there are some fans here. Anybody else got a good tip
> about some less know music?

Hum, let's see what I have in my playlist...

Quite a bunch of irish / celtic / (british) folk artists, some of which may
qualify as "less known" to "outsiders":

Steeleye Span or Clannad seem to have been quite popular names, I gather.
Fairport Convention maybe less so. Capercaille, anyone? Loreena McKennit could
be quite unknown to many "outsiders", though that's just a guess.

Anyone remember Peter, Paul and Mary?

I won't mention the Bretonic harp player "Morgan" 'cause I guess she'll be *too*
unknown. *Very* intriguing music (imagine Joan Baez' british-type folk music
songs, but with the much "richer" harp, and replace Joan's occasionally shrill
voice with a much more pleasant one; that'll get you close). I'll never forget
her live performance in some small kind of pub, with an almost family-like
atmosphere. Never heard of her before, or ever since.


Some "minstrels" - ballad singers - from my dad's record rack, some of which may
have been forgotten:

Gordon Lightfoot known to anyone? "Canadian Railroad Trilogy" is my favorite.
Beautiful ballads.

Kris Kristofferson did some beautiful ballads, too. And then there's Leonard
Cohen.

I guess Donovan and John Denver (well, more of a contry musician than a ballad
singer, the latter) are quite known at least to the older generation. Same with
Cat Stevens.

Steve Winwood's "John Barleycorn (Must Die)"


Various others that I can't fit into any category:

"Short Sharp Shocked" from punk rocker Michelle Shocked (a very un-punk-ish
album if I have any idea of punk rock)

Hazeldine known to anyone? Very powerful version of "Summer Wine" (originally
known by Nancy Sinatra and Lee Hazlewood), and a few other powerful pieces I'd
classify as coutry/rock.

Big Daddy might be totally unknown to most. They seem to have done mostly
humorous retro-style cover versions of 80's and 90's pop music (e.g. "Money for
Nothing" to music remniscient of "16 tons" and the like). They also did a cover
version of the whole Beatles' "Sgt. Petter" album.

Ladysmith Black Mambazo - the best songs IMHO being those they did together with
Paul Simon, but did some good ones of their own, too.

Another South African singer: Miriam Makeba.


I guess The Shadows are known to the older generation, and Fleetwood Mac and
Creedence Clearwater Revival likewise.


Anyone remember "Bakerman" from "Laid Back"?


Well... maybe not too much unknown stuff, but a bit may be in there. (Don't know
if any of these meets your taste though)


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: you & me right now, warp
Date: 23 Feb 2009 13:19:13
Message: <49A2E896.6030104@hotmail.com>
On 23-2-2009 18:14, clipka wrote:
> andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> See, p.o-t never disappoints when talking about whatever sort of music.
>> There are always people who know about it. I now know that there are
>> some here that know and appreciate Moving Hearts, Blackmore's Night and
>> von Bingen. I can't remember any reaction when I mentioned Eric Bogle or
>> Meav, but no doubt there are some fans here. Anybody else got a good tip
>> about some less know music?
> 
> Hum, let's see what I have in my playlist...
> 
> Quite a bunch of irish / celtic / (british) folk artists, some of which may
> qualify as "less known" to "outsiders":
> 
> Steeleye Span 
I know them, don't have a record yet.
> or Clannad seem to have been quite popular names, I gather.
yes, and I had had a record before Harry's Game.
> Fairport Convention maybe less so. 
Liege and Lief was one of my first albums
> Capercaille, anyone? 
Rings a bell, I think I have heard some, but don't own a record.
> Loreena McKennit could
> be quite unknown to many "outsiders", though that's just a guess.
I know her, even met her and have a picture to prove it ;)

> Anyone remember Peter, Paul and Mary?
sort of.
> 
> I won't mention the Bretonic harp player "Morgan" 'cause I guess she'll be *too*
> unknown. *Very* intriguing music (imagine Joan Baez' british-type folk music
> songs, but with the much "richer" harp, and replace Joan's occasionally shrill
> voice with a much more pleasant one; that'll get you close). I'll never forget
> her live performance in some small kind of pub, with an almost family-like
> atmosphere. Never heard of her before, or ever since.

Perhaps you can find something on youtube, you may know better what you 
are looking for than me. It sounds interesting. Only bretonic harp 
player that I know is Alan Stivell.

> 
> Some "minstrels" - ballad singers - from my dad's record rack, some of which may
> have been forgotten:
> 
> Gordon Lightfoot known to anyone? "Canadian Railroad Trilogy" is my favorite.
> Beautiful ballads.

don't have a record

> Kris Kristofferson did some beautiful ballads, too. 
Perhaps.
> And then there's Leonard Cohen.

Ah yes, sure.

> I guess Donovan and John Denver (well, more of a contry musician than a ballad
> singer, the latter) are quite known at least to the older generation. Same with
> Cat Stevens.

yes, I think I will try some Yusuf Islam sometime.

> Steve Winwood's "John Barleycorn (Must Die)"
> 
> 
> Various others that I can't fit into any category:
> 
> "Short Sharp Shocked" from punk rocker Michelle Shocked (a very un-punk-ish
> album if I have any idea of punk rock)

Should be on a list of things to try, but never came round to it, thanks 
for reminding,

> Hazeldine known to anyone? Very powerful version of "Summer Wine" (originally
> known by Nancy Sinatra and Lee Hazlewood), and a few other powerful pieces I'd
> classify as coutry/rock.
Doesn't ring a bell.

> Big Daddy might be totally unknown to most. They seem to have done mostly
> humorous retro-style cover versions of 80's and 90's pop music (e.g. "Money for
> Nothing" to music remniscient of "16 tons" and the like). They also did a cover
> version of the whole Beatles' "Sgt. Petter" album.
unknown
> 
> Ladysmith Black Mambazo - the best songs IMHO being those they did together with
> Paul Simon, but did some good ones of their own, too.

I have a record and seen them live in our local theater.

> Another South African singer: Miriam Makeba.

Another one that should be on a list.

> I guess The Shadows are known to the older generation, and Fleetwood Mac and
> Creedence Clearwater Revival likewise.

Sure, I am older.

> 
> Anyone remember "Bakerman" from "Laid Back"?

I don't

> Well... maybe not too much unknown stuff, but a bit may be in there. (Don't know
> if any of these meets your taste though)

Somethings may, but there are more people here ;)

Thanks.


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: you & me right now, warp
Date: 23 Feb 2009 14:09:44
Message: <49a2f478$1@news.povray.org>
>>> You do realise you can connect to news.gmane.org with Thunderbird, yes?

>> ...you can *do* that?? o_O
> 
> It *is* a mail-to-news gateway.....

Oh. I thought it was just a web interface to a mailing list.

> Have a look at the FAQ....or the "About" link.

I'm pretty sure I've done that once already...

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: you & me right now, warp
Date: 23 Feb 2009 14:27:28
Message: <bms5q4t6via57dos66ic15pntui62h63i0@4ax.com>
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:14:43 EST, "clipka" <nomail@nomail> wrote:

>
>Hum, let's see what I have in my playlist...
>
>Quite a bunch of irish / celtic / (british) folk artists, some of which may
>qualify as "less known" to "outsiders":
>
In my youth I liked Scottish and Irish folk music a lot. I don't know if you
have heard of  The Dubliners, The Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem, The
Chieftains, Hamish Imlach, Corrie Folk Trio and Paddie Bell, Capercaillie etc. 


>Anyone remember Peter, Paul and Mary?
>

Afraid so :)

>Ladysmith Black Mambazo - the best songs IMHO being those they did together with
>Paul Simon, but did some good ones of their own, too.
>
>Another South African singer: Miriam Makeba.
>

Have you listened to the Soweto String Quartet?
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: you & me right now, warp
Date: 23 Feb 2009 14:50:35
Message: <49a2fe0b$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:09:58 +0000, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

>>>> You do realise you can connect to news.gmane.org with Thunderbird,
>>>> yes?
> 
>>> ...you can *do* that?? o_O
>> 
>> It *is* a mail-to-news gateway.....
> 
> Oh. I thought it was just a web interface to a mailing list.

Um, no, it's self-described as a "mail to news gateway".

Paragraph 3 from the about page, for example:

"This is what Gmane offers. Mailing lists are funneled into news groups. 
This isn't a new idea; several mail-to-news gateways exist. What's new 
with Gmane is that no messages are ever expired from the server, and the 
gateway is bidirectional. You can post to some of these mailing lists 
without being subscribed to them yourself, depending on whether the 
mailing lists allow non-subscribers to post or not."

>> Have a look at the FAQ....or the "About" link.
> 
> I'm pretty sure I've done that once already...

Then read closer. ;-)

Jim


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: you & me right now, warp
Date: 23 Feb 2009 15:29:17
Message: <49A30713.80805@hotmail.com>
On 23-2-2009 20:27, Stephen wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:14:43 EST, "clipka" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> 
>> Hum, let's see what I have in my playlist...
>>
>> Quite a bunch of irish / celtic / (british) folk artists, some of which may
>> qualify as "less known" to "outsiders":
>>
> In my youth I liked Scottish and Irish folk music a lot. I don't know if you
> have heard of  The Dubliners,
yes, but I am not particularly a fan of them. I think I heard them too 
often sing out of tune. Very funny in a group with drunken Irishmen I 
guess, but I am not Irish and I don't drink.
> The Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem, 
Yes!
> The Chieftains,
Yes couple of records.
> Hamish Imlach, Corrie Folk Trio and Paddie Bell, Capercaillie etc. 

except for the previously mentioned Capercaillie, I don'y know them.
> 
>> Anyone remember Peter, Paul and Mary?
>>
> 
> Afraid so :)
> 
>> Ladysmith Black Mambazo - the best songs IMHO being those they did together with
>> Paul Simon, but did some good ones of their own, too.
>>
>> Another South African singer: Miriam Makeba.
>>
> 
> Have you listened to the Soweto String Quartet?
no, off to youtube...


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: you & me right now, warp
Date: 23 Feb 2009 16:40:00
Message: <web.49a3171d98eaac14bc3331700@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
> In my youth I liked Scottish and Irish folk music a lot. I don't know if you
> have heard of  The Dubliners,

Sure - didn't mention them because I guess they're probably the best-known Irish
folk band of all.

> The Clancy Brothers

I guess I heard the name, but that's about it.

> Tommy Makem,

Doesn't ring a bell.

> The Chieftains,

Good, but not exactly my taste, mostly. Too much on the pop side.

> Hamish Imlach, Corrie Folk Trio and Paddie Bell,

Never heard any of those.

> Capercaillie etc.

Didn't I mention them myself? Whoops...

> >Anyone remember Peter, Paul and Mary?
>
> Afraid so :)

Don't like them? I really love the traditional songs they performed.

> Have you listened to the Soweto String Quartet?

Not yet.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: you & me right now, warp
Date: 23 Feb 2009 16:56:14
Message: <qn66q49ra6e88mcm402oq80vul596g43un@4ax.com>
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:29:07 +0100, andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

> but I am not Irish and I don't drink.

To reuse a saying from the seventies; "It doesn't make you a bad person". :)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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