"Mike the Elder" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message
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> OK, this is REALLY off topic, but this is one of the very few places where
I
> might find people who can provide genuinely helpful information on the
topic,
> which is: Story or puzzle games for the PS2 that are intellectually
challenging
> (or at least amusing) without being insanely violent or imposing manual
> dexterity requirements on the order of:

Sorry. I'm a PC and XBox gamer.

iirc, the Final Fantay series are PS2 games. Dunno if you're even slightly
intereted in RPG type games. If you are, see if you can get one of the older
ones of those. You should be able to get a second-hand copy pretty cheap.

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I have a question about playstation 2:

  Can you connect it directly to a CRT monitor?

  The reason I ask this is that there are so many great games which I would
like to play but are irritatingly only available for PS2 that I have been
thinking about purchasing some PS2 for cheap at some flea market or something
so that I can play those games.
  The problem is that I don't own any kind of TV whatsoever. The only way
I could play the PS2 is if I could connect it to my CRT. (Of course this
means I cannot keep my PC running at the same time, at least not without
buying an expensive switch, but it's better than nothing.)

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On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:47:28 +0100, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>   I have a question about playstation 2:
>
>   Can you connect it directly to a CRT monitor?

I think you would need a signal converter, like one of these:
http://www.grand.com.tw/products_tvpc.html



> (Of course this
> means I cannot keep my PC running at the same time, at least not witho
ut
> buying an expensive switch, but it's better than nothing.)

They are not terribly expensive. This one can be had for less than 350 S
EK:
http://www.aten.com/products/productItem.php?pid=20050221152731005

All in all though, the converter and the switch might cost you more than
 a  

used PS2.


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FE

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Fredrik Eriksson <fe79}--at--{yahoo}--dot--{com> wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:47:28 +0100, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> >   I have a question about playstation 2:
> >
> >   Can you connect it directly to a CRT monitor?

> I think you would need a signal converter, like one of these:
> http://www.grand.com.tw/products_tvpc.html

  You mean the only way to play a PS2 with a monitor is for the PS2
to make a VGA -> PAL conversion, and then use a device which makes a
PAL -> VGA conversion? That doesn't make too much sense. (Not to talk
about the decreased image quality, as PAL is interlaced and has limited
resolution.)

  Why couldn't they think that hey, perhaps someone *might* want to
play a PS2 with a monitor instead of a TV?

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And lo on Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:23:16 -0000, Mike the Elder <nomail@nomail>  
did spake, saying:

> OK, this is REALLY off topic, but this is one of the very few places  
> where I
> might find people who can provide genuinely helpful information on the  
> topic,
> which is: Story or puzzle games for the PS2 that are intellectually  
> challenging
> (or at least amusing) without being insanely violent or imposing manual
> dexterity requirements on the order of:

I'll second Okami as a story game, it's also gorgeous, and funny.

As you've discovered with DQ (and as you might with the FF series)  
although there's a story there I found you do need a lot of monster  
bashing to build up your stats to progress without having your arse handed  
to you on a platter and as such it can get repetitive. Kingdom Hearts I &  
II isn't bad, likewise Shadow Hearts I, II, & III don't feel as grindy as  
FF.

Ico and Shadow of the Colossus has been mentioned. I'd opt for Ico - story  
plus puzzles; Shadow's a little shallower.

I've just been replaying the cel-shaded Sly Raccoon trilogy. Each  
city/area is divided story-wise into sections that in turn contain jobs.  
You travel freely over the city as a Master Thief pickpocketing guards (or  
bashing them if you chose) locating the few highly valuable items on  
display or clues to the main mark's safe combination (first two games  
only) then head to a job to start. Complete all those jobs, advance to a  
new section of the story and repeat until you've completed the main  
mission and can move on to the next city/area. Except for a couple of  
timed, rhythm or free-for-all bashing sections you can take it at your own  
pace. Some small puzzle aspects, but nothing odious. Cleverly funny at  
times.

A blast from the past would be Soul Reaver on the PS1 or more up-to-date  
its sequel Soul Reaver 2 on the PS2. Fighting and geographic puzzle solving

The first two Ratchett and Clanks aren't bad if you like fun third-person  
shooters with gadgets and gizmos, steer clear of the others on the PS2  
though they're just bash-em-ups

Then there's the Silent Hill set if you don't mind horror, difficult  
puzzles and an emphasis on running away rather then fighting (except for a  
couple of boss battles).

Best option is of course to rent anything you take a fancy to then pick  
them up cheap if you like them.

-- 
Phil Cook

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I think the best puzzle game I ever played was The Settlers. (There are 
several editions by now - each somewhat better than the one before.) But 
I doubt that's available for PS2...

Phil will probably tell you that Portal is a lot of fun - but that 
severely violates your dexterity requirement.

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> I think you would need a signal converter, like one of these:
> http://www.grand.com.tw/products_tvpc.html

Get one of these, for $60 you can plug your normal PC and console into it, 
and it will output to a normal monitor.

http://www.x2vga.com/

Or just download a PS2 emulator for your PC.

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And lo on Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:16:44 -0000, Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull>  
did spake, saying:

> I think the best puzzle game I ever played was The Settlers. (There are  
> several editions by now - each somewhat better than the one before.) But  
> I doubt that's available for PS2...

I believe there was talk about a version, which came to nought. They tried  
some RTS games on the PS1 and I think they're popular in Japan, the  
closest on the PS2 here are probably Spartan, and Dynasty Warriors; or the  
ubiquitous Sims.

> Phil will probably tell you that Portal is a lot of fun - but that  
> severely violates your dexterity requirement.

And sadly it's PS3 not PS2.

It depends on what you what you like, rather then down to speed/dexterity;  
I mean you might like We Love Katamari which involves pushing a ball that  
collects stuff, the bigger the ball the bigger the objects it can collect,  
make as large a collection of stuff as you can in the time limit.

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Phil Cook

--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com

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scott <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:
> Or just download a PS2 emulator for your PC.

  Is there any emulator which actually can run commercial games?

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scott <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:
> http://www.x2vga.com/

  Btw, does it work with the PAL version of PS2?

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