"alphaQuad" <alp### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:
> "nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> "Is it the widespread drug usage?"
>
> vague question ... what drugs are you talking about.

Quite frankly, all kinds, including cocaine, alcohol, caffeine and the
pharmaceutical prescriptions.  It's not a particular problem of the USA, sure,
but having enough money to sustain your needs and the biggest pharmaceutical
industries in the planet eager to profit from it does not help.

> This government has been evil profiteers since alcohol and cannabis prohibition
> in the 30's for more than 80 years. It wasnt just misguided action. It was
> profit motive. Compazine and fluorides are cheap to make. The greater profit is
> in the drug war, able to steal homes property, money and the drugs for their
> sale and use.

God bless America.  You sure are in need of it...

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My point is this ( and on that page )

Author Bill Cooper, "Behold A Pale Horse": "In every instance that I have
investigated -- the incident at the women's school in Canada, the shopping mall
in Canada, the Stockton, California, massacre, and the murder of Rabbi Meir
Kahane -- the shooters were all ex-mental patients or were current mental
patients who were all on the drug Prozac."

Add to the list Columbine's Eric Harris, Cho Seung-Hui at Virginia Tech, and 2
more deaths at NASA with a previous indent by a Fluorine-crazed astronut
wearing space diapers. US legislators must dig the hell out of violence.

If we know prohibition doesn't work (proven for more than 80 years) and only
creates a street market for crime, violence, child addiction, and destruction
of innocent lives (prohibition creating anarchy), to continue the drug war
madness (reminiscent of witch hunt days) means the criminal psychosis of men in
power.


Give them medicine not poision. But dont you see? There are enough people that
"we will make millions" before anyone notices or befoer too many get killed.

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Apparently Jesus thought he could teach people to love. Look what they did to
him.

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Woohoo!  I went to school there!

*ahem*

What I find interesting is how different articles about this kind of 
thing word things in the headline:  was it a shooting, an incident, a 
massacre?  Were the people shot, killed, murdered, or are they merely 
dead at such-and-such location?  If the killer committed suicide, are 
they listed in the death count, or separately?  Does the headline count 
injured?  Is the event fact, or alleged?

...on another note, placing blame for an event on others who are totally 
unrelated to that event and have no power over it is pretty silly.  It 
is not John Doe in Juneau, Alaska's fault for not sending an ineffective 
letter to his representative if a kid in Nevada dies from choking on a 
can of Alaska crab, even if John Doe happens to be a secretary for 
middle-management at the company that prints the labels for the cans.

-- 
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.digitalartsuk.com

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alphaQuad wrote:
> Author Bill Cooper, "Behold A Pale Horse": "In every instance that I have
> investigated -- the incident at the women's school in Canada, the shopping mall
> in Canada, the Stockton, California, massacre, and the murder of Rabbi Meir
> Kahane -- the shooters were all ex-mental patients or were current mental
> patients who were all on the drug Prozac."

Most significant phrase in this comment: "that I have investigated".

*smirk*

If you only investigate the ones that were ex-mental patients or current 
mental patients, all on Prozac, well...

-- 
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.digitalartsuk.com

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"Tim Cook" <z99### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message
news:47b50697$1@news.povray.org...

> ...on another note, placing blame for an event on others who are totally
> unrelated to that event and have no power over it is pretty silly.

Why not. It seems all the rage today. (not just in the US, same down here)

Blame the government, blame the previous government, blame the political
situation, blame the people who 'are trying to keep you down', blame the
corporations.

Just don't whatever you do don't accept any personal responsibility for
anything. It's all someone else's fault.
</sarcasm>

Sorry. It's a rather prevalant attitide that really irritates me.

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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:27:20 -0500, Tim Cook wrote:

> ...on another note, placing blame for an event on others who are totally
> unrelated to that event and have no power over it is pretty silly.

Agreed.  There is *always* personal responsibility, something that many 
people are quick to give up by looking for someone else to blame for 
their problems.

It doesn't do a cause much good to say "you are part of the problem if 
you don't write to someone".

Jim

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"alphaQuad" <alp### [at] earthlinknet> wrote in message

> Find out what the shooter had been given by the AMA Quacks.
> I am certain that you will find he was given fluorides or sulfides in
place of
> real medicine.

OK, you win the cake for coming up with the most "original" scapegoat, in
the inevitable goat safari that automatically ensues any and all such
incidents. I sure thought something involving lambda calculus would be named
before AMA...

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somebody wrote:
> "alphaQuad" <alp### [at] earthlinknet> wrote in message
> 
>> Find out what the shooter had been given by the AMA Quacks.
>> I am certain that you will find he was given fluorides or sulfides in
> place of
>> real medicine.
> 
> OK, you win the cake for coming up with the most "original" scapegoat, in
> the inevitable goat safari that automatically ensues any and all such
> incidents. I sure thought something involving lambda calculus would be named
> before AMA...

Another thing I wonder...all these violent acts done by people 
supposedly on medication, what percentage of people on that medication 
do they represent?  How many people would be doing violent acts if 
*nobody* were on those medications?

To wit:

Suppose 5 of 500,000 people on Prozac end up going on shooting rampages.
Suppose those 5 are the only incidents in a 10-year period, so one could 
blame Prozac as being a cause.
But!  Suppose if none of those 500,000 people were on Prozac?  Would 
there be 50 rampages in the same time period?  More?

It's like taser-related deaths vs. potential gun-related deaths were 
tasers not in use.  If there are more non-fatal taser uses than likely 
fatal gun uses, you go with the taser, even if you get a few deaths.

-- 
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.digitalartsuk.com

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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:19:35 EST, "alphaQuad" <alp### [at] earthlinknet>
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>that is about the only non-violent act that can be done.

No one mention your gun laws yet?

Regards
	Stephen

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