> As for why they don't turn the situation into a movie scene, I think the
> reason they get a CC permit explains that.

Do they have to give some reason when they apply for a CC permit then? What 
reason do they give?

> Lastly, I've never heard anyone saying kids should carry guns to protect
> them self. I've known kids who go hunting, and know how to carry a rifle
> or shotgun safely, but even their parent's wouldn't suggest arming the
> child just to get to school.

It was a joke, obviously kids can not be trusted with a gun, but then they 
seem to be the most common targets (from what we hear in the media here 
anyway).  So anyone who says that they need guns to protect themselves, 
better arm their kids too.

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>>> And of course storing the gun unloaded is probably a wise move as well.
>>
>> What, incase someone breaks into your house and you need to use it? ;-)
>
> Most accidental shootings in the home are the result of the weapon being
> left out loaded and ready to use.

Oh I can believe that - but if the reason of having a gun is to protect your 
home, what good is it if it's locked away unloaded?  You think some intruder 
is going to wait patiently while you get your keys, unlock the gun cabinet 
and load the gun?

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And lo on Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:28:36 -0000, Jim Henderson  
<nos### [at] nospamcom> did spake, saying:

> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:59:29 +0000, Phil Cook wrote:
>
>> And lo on Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:12:27 -0000, Jim Henderson
>> <nos### [at] nospamcom> did spake, saying:
>>
>>> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:15:29 +0000, Phil Cook wrote:
>>>
>>>> And lo on Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:27:10 -0000, Jim Henderson
>>>> <nos### [at] nospamcom> did spake, saying:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:44:20 +0000, Phil Cook wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Parents purchase guns, parents don't lock them up properly.  Kid
>>>>>>> gets the gun.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Except if the purpose of the gun is home defence doesn't locking it
>>>>>> up defeat part of the objective?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, you would think so.  At least that's the argument that some
>>>>> people make. Child safety locks are another option as well.
>>>>
>>>> You mean like those child-proof containers you have to get your
>>>> neighbour's 11-year old to open for you :-P Seriously though shouldn't
>>>> a safety catch be enough?
>>>
>>> You'd think so, of course some also argue that taking the safety off
>>> takes time as well, and that time could be the difference between life
>>> and death.
>>>
>>> But no, the safety locks aren't quite like a safety cap on medication
>>> containers.
>>
>> No of course, but having a safety lock and a child lock; hey why not
>> just lock it away in a gun cabinet :-P
>
> I'm good with that.

Except we're back to why 'you' have the weapon in the first place.

>>>>> And of course storing the gun unloaded is probably a wise move as
>>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> Which again defeats the purpose of a home defence weapon. If it's not
>>>> accessible and easy to use what's the point in having one? You might
>>>> as well stick to keeping a baseball bat by the side of the bed.
>>>
>>> I've got a sharp pointy weapon within easy reach should it be needed.
>>
>> I've an umbrella... which sounds kind of dumb until I demonstrate its
>> four-foot reach and 3-inch blunted spike on the end :-)
>
> I've got one like that as well.  The sharp pointy weapon is an antique,
> but it's still quite sharp.  I wouldn't want to get the blade stained
> (nor would my wife, as it's hers) if we could possibly avoid it, but it
> would certainly be effective at close range.

'Now look what you've done. You've got all that horrible blood on my  
antique' Sorry I just found that a funny thought.

> We have had occasion to "clear" the house using a couple of them,
> actually - came home and found we'd left the back door unlocked, and
> *thought* we heard a noise in the basement.  Plenty of doorways to hide
> behind, and the basement was clear (so all's well that ends well).

Most people here would have called 999, then waited until the next day for  
the police to turn up.

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And lo on Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:17:14 -0000, Stephen <mcavoysATaolDOTcom>  
did spake, saying:

> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:59:29 -0000, "Phil Cook"
> <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
>
>>
>> I've an umbrella... which sounds kind of dumb until I demonstrate its
>> four-foot reach and 3-inch blunted spike on the end :-)
>
> My name is Steed, John Steed :)

I'd even buy a bowler if it got me closer to a Diana Rigg look-a-like ;-)

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And lo on Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:18:55 -0000, Stephen <mcavoysATaolDOTcom>  
did spake, saying:

> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:17:07 -0000, "Phil Cook"
> <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
>
>>> But then I'm bitter and twisted.
>>
>> Who isn't? Bitter, twisted, and angry... I should move to the US so I  
>> can
>> buy a gun.
>>
>> 'Reason for purchase: To show them, to show them all Hahahahahahaa.'
>
> You can get arrested for that you know :)

Would that be before or after I'm invited to join the NRA?

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And lo on Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:55:11 -0000, scott <sco### [at] laptopcom> did  
spake, saying:

>> As for why they don't turn the situation into a movie scene, I think the
>> reason they get a CC permit explains that.
>
> Do they have to give some reason when they apply for a CC permit then?  
> What reason do they give?

"To show them, to show them all Hahahahahahaa." Sorry.

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:18:20 -0000, "Phil Cook"
<phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:

>And lo on Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:17:14 -0000, Stephen <mcavoysATaolDOTcom>  
>did spake, saying:
>
>> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:59:29 -0000, "Phil Cook"
>> <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I've an umbrella... which sounds kind of dumb until I demonstrate its
>>> four-foot reach and 3-inch blunted spike on the end :-)
>>
>> My name is Steed, John Steed :)
>
>I'd even buy a bowler if it got me closer to a Diana Rigg look-a-like ;-)
>
Who wouldn't?

Regards
	Stephen

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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:20:10 -0000, "Phil Cook"
<phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:

>Would that be before or after I'm invited to join the NRA?

National Restaurant Association ???

Regards
	Stephen

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And lo on Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:31:19 -0000, Stephen <mcavoysATaolDOTcom>  
did spake, saying:

> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:20:10 -0000, "Phil Cook"
> <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
>
>> Would that be before or after I'm invited to join the NRA?
>
> National Restaurant Association ???

Hell no; they're a bunch of nutters.

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And lo on Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:41:24 -0000, Sabrina Kilian <"ykgp at  
vtSPAM.edu"> did spake, saying:

> Stephen wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:36:40 -0500, Sabrina Kilian <"ykgp at  
>> vtSPAM.edu"> wrote:
>>> Insurance companies can
>>> dictate what they will pay, but make doctors charge the same thing to
>>> everyone and therefor dictate what the uninsured pay too. Screwed up
>>> system. 100$ a month for a one hour session, or the latest 45$ a month
>>> pill, or an older pill at 8$ a month?
>>
>> And our NHS is going private. Thanks for the warning
>
> While we struggle to make ours open to everyone. What should I be
> watching out for?

Top-heavy management by people with no actual experience in medicine.  
Imagine taking all the people running the HMOs and putting them in charge  
of it all. Okay slightly unfair because the current system is getting  
messy as we (that is the government) try to inject private healthcare into  
the system; that's the other thing to watch for.

While I know people who've got in quickly on the NHS I've likewise know  
people who have been expected to wait 6 months for surgery... unless they  
go private in which case there's a slot next week - in the same hospital  
and with the same surgeon that they'd have got in 6 months for free on the  
NHS.

http://thejuniordoctor.blogspot.com/2008/02/is-there-doctor-in-house.html

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