And lo on Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:28:36 -0000, Jim Henderson  
<nos### [at] nospamcom> did spake, saying:

> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:59:29 +0000, Phil Cook wrote:
>
>> And lo on Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:12:27 -0000, Jim Henderson
>> <nos### [at] nospamcom> did spake, saying:
>>
>>> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:15:29 +0000, Phil Cook wrote:
>>>
>>>> And lo on Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:27:10 -0000, Jim Henderson
>>>> <nos### [at] nospamcom> did spake, saying:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:44:20 +0000, Phil Cook wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Parents purchase guns, parents don't lock them up properly.  Kid
>>>>>>> gets the gun.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Except if the purpose of the gun is home defence doesn't locking it
>>>>>> up defeat part of the objective?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, you would think so.  At least that's the argument that some
>>>>> people make. Child safety locks are another option as well.
>>>>
>>>> You mean like those child-proof containers you have to get your
>>>> neighbour's 11-year old to open for you :-P Seriously though shouldn't
>>>> a safety catch be enough?
>>>
>>> You'd think so, of course some also argue that taking the safety off
>>> takes time as well, and that time could be the difference between life
>>> and death.
>>>
>>> But no, the safety locks aren't quite like a safety cap on medication
>>> containers.
>>
>> No of course, but having a safety lock and a child lock; hey why not
>> just lock it away in a gun cabinet :-P
>
> I'm good with that.

Except we're back to why 'you' have the weapon in the first place.

>>>>> And of course storing the gun unloaded is probably a wise move as
>>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> Which again defeats the purpose of a home defence weapon. If it's not
>>>> accessible and easy to use what's the point in having one? You might
>>>> as well stick to keeping a baseball bat by the side of the bed.
>>>
>>> I've got a sharp pointy weapon within easy reach should it be needed.
>>
>> I've an umbrella... which sounds kind of dumb until I demonstrate its
>> four-foot reach and 3-inch blunted spike on the end :-)
>
> I've got one like that as well.  The sharp pointy weapon is an antique,
> but it's still quite sharp.  I wouldn't want to get the blade stained
> (nor would my wife, as it's hers) if we could possibly avoid it, but it
> would certainly be effective at close range.

'Now look what you've done. You've got all that horrible blood on my  
antique' Sorry I just found that a funny thought.

> We have had occasion to "clear" the house using a couple of them,
> actually - came home and found we'd left the back door unlocked, and
> *thought* we heard a noise in the basement.  Plenty of doorways to hide
> behind, and the basement was clear (so all's well that ends well).

Most people here would have called 999, then waited until the next day for  
the police to turn up.

-- 
Phil Cook

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