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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Wacom tablet
Date: 17 Sep 2009 12:14:04
Message: <4ab2604c$1@news.povray.org>
Someone - Stephen, maybe? - suggested that I look at a Wacom tablet to 
deal with an issue I have with writing (really bad cramps in my right 
hand).  I had a chance to try out a Graphire tablet last week and really 
liked it - so I've now bought an Intuos4 medium tablet.

I *really* like this.  Took a couple hours to get configured correctly on 
my Linux systems (the latest driver supports the Intuos4, which is 
relatively new), but it works *great*.

The next problem I have to solve is finding a good clear space on my desk 
for it.

Thanks for the suggestion!

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Wacom tablet
Date: 17 Sep 2009 13:29:19
Message: <29s4b5tuuc0qlv4c3p8jf0mbm251nn3fjr@4ax.com>
On 17 Sep 2009 12:14:04 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>Someone - Stephen, maybe? - suggested that I look at a Wacom tablet to 
>deal with an issue I have with writing (really bad cramps in my right 
>hand).  I had a chance to try out a Graphire tablet last week and really 
>liked it - so I've now bought an Intuos4 medium tablet.
>
>I *really* like this.  Took a couple hours to get configured correctly on 
>my Linux systems (the latest driver supports the Intuos4, which is 
>relatively new), but it works *great*.
>
>The next problem I have to solve is finding a good clear space on my desk 
>for it.
>
>Thanks for the suggestion!
>

My pleasure :)

I found that for everyday use the small tablet is better. I have an A3 sizes one
and seldom use it. Even on my small tablet I only use a small rectangle for
navigating, about the size of a laptop touchpad.

Don't be afraid of not using the whole area.
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Wacom tablet
Date: 17 Sep 2009 15:15:21
Message: <4ab28ac9$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:29:14 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> My pleasure :)
> 
> I found that for everyday use the small tablet is better. I have an A3
> sizes one and seldom use it. Even on my small tablet I only use a small
> rectangle for navigating, about the size of a laptop touchpad.
> 
> Don't be afraid of not using the whole area.

I opted for the medium one largely for the OLED labels (which of course I 
can't use in Linux yet) and the additional buttons that are provided.  
Finding space on my desk has been a challenge.

Getting the Linux drivers working didn't take very long once I stopped 
trying to configure options that didn't make sense - like the "mode" for 
the pad buttons being "absolute" or "relative" - no meaning, and X didn't 
like me setting that option at all.

It was interesting to me as well that it sent through actual keystrokes 
for the button press - CTL+ALT+SHIFT+F1 dumped me to tty1.  Caught me by 
surprise because I was expecting Firefox to launch. ;-)

I'm no artist, just been spending time playing in the Gimp and Inkscape.  
And Xournal, which is a pretty neat app for just doodling.  I may even 
take my whiteboard down now. :-)  (But I doubt it)

Jim


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Wacom tablet
Date: 17 Sep 2009 15:38:07
Message: <4ab2901f$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:

> Don't be afraid of not using the whole area.

OK, now I'm puzzled... Tablets use absolute positioning. So how do you 
only use a small area?

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Wacom tablet
Date: 17 Sep 2009 15:59:29
Message: <4ab29521$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
> 
>> Don't be afraid of not using the whole area.
> 
> OK, now I'm puzzled... Tablets use absolute positioning. So how do you 
> only use a small area?
> 

Two ways: I have mine set to match my monitor's aspect ratio, and you 
can also set it to relative mode, or mouse mode.

-- 
~Mike


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Wacom tablet
Date: 17 Sep 2009 16:56:16
Message: <4ab2a270$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:38:07 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> OK, now I'm puzzled... Tablets use absolute positioning. So how do you
> only use a small area?

Because tablets don't use absolute positioning.  The Wacom driver for all 
platforms (Linux, Windows, and Mac) lets you choose whether you're using 
absolute or relative positioning.

In fact, the Wacom tablets let you set this depending on the tool you're 
using.  So when I'm using the cordless mouse, it uses relative 
positioning (so I can move off the edge of my screen and onto the next 
system the way I always have), but the stylus and eraser are configured 
for absolute positioning.

You can also configure the area, and even can configure within some 
applications for "Window" or "Screen" mode (meaning the area applies only 
to the current window or to the entire screen).

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Wacom tablet
Date: 17 Sep 2009 18:46:53
Message: <1ge5b5d03geor8o2keg70c8mpu0mva9rb4@4ax.com>
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:38:07 +0100, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>Stephen wrote:
>
>> Don't be afraid of not using the whole area.
>
>OK, now I'm puzzled... Tablets use absolute positioning. So how do you 
>only use a small area?

Map a small area to the full screen area.

Think of moving a mouse the actual distance the cursor moves onscreen. Not very
ergonomic is it? For quick movements I can map the screen diagonal to be a
couple of inches movement on the tablet. That means that I can keep the heal of
my hand stationary and just move my thumb and forefinger for the courser to
transverse the whole of the screen. If I want a fine control, by tapping a
button on the tablet I can toggle to the whole tablet to being the area of the
screen. 
Also I can use gestures for keyboard functions. If I draw a line that is down
then right I get an "Enter" action, a capital P prints, a cap S saves the
document etc.
 
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Wacom tablet
Date: 17 Sep 2009 18:49:16
Message: <85f5b5hio8ppgmr2u7e6j0652f2qvld7ep@4ax.com>
On 17 Sep 2009 15:15:21 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>
>I'm no artist, just been spending time playing in the Gimp and Inkscape.  
>And Xournal, which is a pretty neat app for just doodling.  I may even 
>take my whiteboard down now. :-)  (But I doubt it)

Practicing signatures is fun as is using a pressure sensitive drawing package. 
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Wacom tablet
Date: 17 Sep 2009 19:15:22
Message: <4ab2c30a$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:49:11 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 17 Sep 2009 15:15:21 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
> 
>>I'm no artist, just been spending time playing in the Gimp and Inkscape.
>>And Xournal, which is a pretty neat app for just doodling.  I may even
>>take my whiteboard down now. :-)  (But I doubt it)
> 
> Practicing signatures is fun as is using a pressure sensitive drawing
> package.

Yeah, the Gimp picks that up - and contrary to the linuxwacom web page's 
assertion, the current release of Gimp understands tilt as well (when 
applied through the calligraphy tool).

One nice use (in conjunction with an online meeting tool) is something 
that behaves a lot more like a whiteboard.  It's so difficult to "write" 
with a mouse.  If I were still teaching, this would be a great way to 
handle drawing diagrams for the class.

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Wacom tablet
Date: 18 Sep 2009 06:02:24
Message: <rkm6b5dthqe0guoc6q6f1sulge6gve3mo8@4ax.com>
On 17 Sep 2009 19:15:22 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>> Practicing signatures is fun as is using a pressure sensitive drawing
>> package.
>
>Yeah, the Gimp picks that up - and contrary to the linuxwacom web page's 
>assertion, the current release of Gimp understands tilt as well (when 
>applied through the calligraphy tool).
>

I've not used mine for about 6 months as I've been meaning to send my laptop off
for repair. I did not bother installing the software after my last system crash
and reinstall.

>One nice use (in conjunction with an online meeting tool) is something 
>that behaves a lot more like a whiteboard.  It's so difficult to "write" 
>with a mouse.  If I were still teaching, this would be a great way to 
>handle drawing diagrams for the class.

With out a doubt.
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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