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Anyone know something cheap, that actually works, can, maybe, recode
things a bit to make them fit, if needed, and won't bloody crash on me?
Made a DVD a while back from the clips for Colour of Magic (thanks
britain, I love not being able to just buy this stuff some place...).
Its 22 segments, for a total of about 3 hours. So far I have tried:
Nero Recode + Super - Super produces almost the same quality of video,
but I am short of space on my C drive (stupid choices made when setting
up the OS), and it doesn't let you set the temp folder any place but the
default C:/Windows/System/Temp... So, even if I go for a lower quality
copy, I can't translate it to VOB, so I can put it on the DVD.
Seemed to work, with each segment as a separate file (22 segments, for
about 3 hours), once recoded to fit, but I didn't try it in every
player, so when someone else borrowed it, it played on their computer,
but not their DVD player. Since Nero doesn't seem to bloody include
anything to a) combine them, b) burn more than one of the original mpgs
to DVD as VOB (assuming it even converts), or c) let you create any sort
of damn menu. Oh, and why the hell is the only frakking option in Nero
for creating things from other classes of files either "DATA", or
"VCD/Super VCD". They even have this listed under "create a DVD", or the
like, but the bloody thing a) doesn't list it as an option, and b) its
"make your own video", which lets you clip stuff together, won't produce
the same quality as the original (sigh..), and only saves to disk, not
to a DVD. It just drops you back to the menu, then lets you pick between
VCD/SuperVCD. If you don't same the video first, while in edit, after
editing, you can't even do that. Bad Nero! This is shitty design, and
confusing even to someone that has *some* clue what they are doing.
Tmpgenc - Can concatenate the original 1080p video into like 360p
(ugh..) Fails to play them, no matter settings used, in the updated
Windows Media Player, does in WMP Classic... See above for the result of
trying to use Super to convert to VOB (complete failure). According to
the site it comes from, I just wasted my money, because its encoder
sucks, tends to desync, and the "replacement" is like $100. :head desk:
DVDStyler - Had high hopes. Crashes at odd times. Failed when starting
to burn, without saying why exactly, then crashed again, when I tried to
remove some of the segments, and make 2 DVDs instead (on the chance that
was the problem). If they fixed the damn thing so it worked right,
warned you about some things, and didn't crash, this looks like it would
be a damn good one. That said...
Blaze Media Pro (test version) - Ate 90% of CPU time, took 6 hours, with
6 more to go, when I killed the process. O.o Slow much?
CopyToDVD - Don't remember, but it sucked too. Think it might have been
that it refused to support anything close to the original video
resolution, didn't include "cram to fit", and was almost as slow as
Blaze Media. I.e., shitty video, just like Tmpgenc.
Anyone know how the frak do you do this and have it not either drive you
nuts, take more time than a POVRay render with radiocity + IOR +
mirrors, maintain some semblance of video quality (hell, I would even go
for 720p at this point, if it bloody worked right, and the options to do
that where not just a list of sizes, and some option to pick aspect
ratio, I presume 720x576 16:9 is 720p???), and have the final result
*actually* play in things?
But, basically, so far, everything I have tried seems to suck at it.
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void main () {
if version = "Vista" {
call slow_by_half();
call DRM_everything();
}
call functional_code();
}
else
call crash_windows();
}
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On 20-2-2011 19:26, Patrick Elliott wrote:
> Anyone know something cheap, that actually works, can, maybe, recode
> things a bit to make them fit, if needed, and won't bloody crash on me?
>
> Made a DVD a while back from the clips for Colour of Magic (thanks
> britain, I love not being able to just buy this stuff some place...).
It is not an answer, but I bought it at amazon (.co.uk) and I am not
living in Britain (Great or otherwise). So I guess it is the NTSC that
is the problem... hmm .co.uk has offers an US import NTSC version, so it
is probably available in the US too... Yes, it is. Then the problem is
either patience or money ;)
--
Apparently you can afford your own dictator for less than 10 cents per
citizen per day.
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Patrick Elliott wrote:
> Its 22 segments, for a total of about 3 hours.
I don't think you're going to fit three hours onto one DVD. Why not use two
DVDs?
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"How did he die?" "He got shot in the hand."
"That was fatal?"
"He was holding a live grenade at the time."
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Darren New <dne### [at] san rrcom> wrote:
> Patrick Elliott wrote:
> > Its 22 segments, for a total of about 3 hours.
> I don't think you're going to fit three hours onto one DVD.
I think it's possible (at least if it's a double-layered DVD), but the
image quality might be less than perfect.
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- Warp
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Le 20/02/2011 20:44, Darren New a écrit :
> Patrick Elliott wrote:
>> Its 22 segments, for a total of about 3 hours.
>
> I don't think you're going to fit three hours onto one DVD. Why not use
> two DVDs?
>
>
Well, a full-rate DVD (10 Mbits/s) would last about 60 minutes on a 4.4
GB DVD(-/+)R(W).
3 hours means an average encoding at 3.2 Mbits/s which is still possible
if you do not take more than a stereo sound and no fast scene change
(with a Mpeg2 encoder good enough for P & B frames).
A DVD-DL would be about 8.5 GB and hold 114 minutes at full rate. 3
hours would be fine with an average at 6.5 Mbits/s, which is rather good.
Now the question can be: is it really needed to have a true DVD format ?
Or can it just be a storage DVD with mpeg4 on it ?
--
Software is like dirt - it costs time and money to change it and move it
around.
Just because you can't see it, it doesn't weigh anything,
and you can't drill a hole in it and stick a rivet into it doesn't mean
it's free.
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Le 20/02/2011 19:26, Patrick Elliott a écrit :
>
> Nero Recode + Super - Super produces almost the same quality of video,
> but I am short of space on my C drive (stupid choices made when setting
> up the OS), and it doesn't let you set the temp folder any place but the
> default C:/Windows/System/Temp... So, even if I go for a lower quality
> copy, I can't translate it to VOB, so I can put it on the DVD.
Have you checked the environment variables TMP & TEMP ?
(in the system & user profiles)
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On 2/20/2011 12:19 PM, andrel wrote:
> On 20-2-2011 19:26, Patrick Elliott wrote:
>> Anyone know something cheap, that actually works, can, maybe, recode
>> things a bit to make them fit, if needed, and won't bloody crash on me?
>>
>> Made a DVD a while back from the clips for Colour of Magic (thanks
>> britain, I love not being able to just buy this stuff some place...).
>
> It is not an answer, but I bought it at amazon (.co.uk) and I am not
> living in Britain (Great or otherwise). So I guess it is the NTSC that
> is the problem... hmm .co.uk has offers an US import NTSC version, so it
> is probably available in the US too... Yes, it is. Then the problem is
> either patience or money ;)
>
>
Hmm.. So, you can get it in the US, but the US site only shows Wyrd
Sisters and Soul Music (both animated).... Thanks. Was damned annoyed
that I couldn't find it.
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void main () {
if version = "Vista" {
call slow_by_half();
call DRM_everything();
}
call functional_code();
}
else
call crash_windows();
}
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On 2/21/2011 1:43 AM, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> Le 20/02/2011 20:44, Darren New a écrit :
>> Patrick Elliott wrote:
>>> Its 22 segments, for a total of about 3 hours.
>>
>> I don't think you're going to fit three hours onto one DVD. Why not use
>> two DVDs?
>>
>>
> Well, a full-rate DVD (10 Mbits/s) would last about 60 minutes on a 4.4
> GB DVD(-/+)R(W).
>
> 3 hours means an average encoding at 3.2 Mbits/s which is still possible
> if you do not take more than a stereo sound and no fast scene change
> (with a Mpeg2 encoder good enough for P& B frames).
>
> A DVD-DL would be about 8.5 GB and hold 114 minutes at full rate. 3
> hours would be fine with an average at 6.5 Mbits/s, which is rather good.
>
> Now the question can be: is it really needed to have a true DVD format ?
> Or can it just be a storage DVD with mpeg4 on it ?
>
>
Recoding is *supposed* to fix that, and did, except it then wouldn't
play on a DVD player. But, yeah, its a bit tight trying to fit that much
on a DVD. Need to look at splitting it where it was split already,
(think the originals where like two 1:30 shows), or just buy the damn
thing, now that I know where the hell to find it.
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void main () {
If Schrödingers_cat is alive or version > 98 {
if version = "Vista" {
call slow_by_half();
call DRM_everything();
}
call functional_code();
}
else
call crash_windows();
}
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On 2/21/2011 1:47 AM, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> Le 20/02/2011 19:26, Patrick Elliott a écrit :
>>
>> Nero Recode + Super - Super produces almost the same quality of video,
>> but I am short of space on my C drive (stupid choices made when setting
>> up the OS), and it doesn't let you set the temp folder any place but the
>> default C:/Windows/System/Temp... So, even if I go for a lower quality
>> copy, I can't translate it to VOB, so I can put it on the DVD.
>
> Have you checked the environment variables TMP& TEMP ?
> (in the system& user profiles)
Hmm. There is a thought. I tried hunting the registry for where Super
handled it, but couldn't find anything. Didn't think about looking
there. What I really need to do is remake my whole system again, but I
despise having to reinstall things. Invariably end up forgetting about
something I use, but rarely, then having to figure out how to get it
installed again. lol
Still. Just bloody wish Nero wasn't so obtuse about DVDs, which is to
say you can recode shit from video, etc., to VCD or SuperVCD, but for
some frakking reason you can't do the same with DVD (that I could find).
Found one case, which I don't remember how to get back to, where you
could add in a video, but then it refused to add more than one video...
Nice burner, but the stuff missing from it some times is just hair pulling.
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void main () {
If Schrödingers_cat is alive or version > 98 {
if version = "Vista" {
call slow_by_half();
call DRM_everything();
}
call functional_code();
}
else
call crash_windows();
}
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On 21/02/2011 5:19 PM, Patrick Elliott wrote:
> Hmm.. So, you can get it in the US, but the US site only shows Wyrd
> Sisters and Soul Music (both animated).... Thanks. Was damned annoyed
> that I couldn't find it.
On Amazon.com I see it @ $7.93
http://www.amazon.com/Color-Magic-David-Jason/dp/B002436WFI/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1298312882&sr=8-5
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Stephen
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