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From: Phil Cook v2
Subject: Re: Dettol protects: Fact?
Date: 18 Nov 2010 06:19:56
Message: <op.vmc5rs00mn4jds@phils>
And lo On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:06:06 -0000, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull>  
did spake thusly:

> "Fact: Germs [including the flu virus] can live on surfaces for up to  
> two days.
>
> Fact: Dettol kills 99.9% of gems, including the flu virus."

What I dislike is it makes no distinction between harmless and harmful.  
Congratulations you've just removed the competition for the .1% that's  
resistant to this stuff better hope it's not something potentially harmful.

As for claims I do love the creams that boast X% more oxygen. Easily  
achieved - just add water :-)

Ah I knew I'd seen this somewhere  
http://www.cracked.com/article_17606_7-high-tech-products-their-cheap-ass-ingredients.html
 
NSFW

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Phil Cook

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Dettol protects: Fact?
Date: 18 Nov 2010 06:51:23
Message: <4ce5133b$1@news.povray.org>
On 18/11/2010 11:20 AM, Phil Cook v2 wrote:
> And lo On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:06:06 -0000, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull>
> did spake thusly:
>
>> "Fact: Germs [including the flu virus] can live on surfaces for up to
>> two days.
>>
>> Fact: Dettol kills 99.9% of gems, including the flu virus."
>
> What I dislike is it makes no distinction between harmless and harmful.
> Congratulations you've just removed the competition for the .1% that's
> resistant to this stuff better hope it's not something potentially harmful.

Fact: Dettol kills 99.9% of bacteria.
Fact: 99.9% of bacteria have NO EFFECT on human health in either direction.

Gotta love the way the advert used to talk about how Dettol kills 
/bacteria/, and lately they suddenly changed it to "germs, including the 
flu virus". Every few syllables is "flu virus". Like it's really 
important or something.

> As for claims I do love the creams that boast X% more oxygen. Easily
> achieved - just add water :-)

"NEW! Walkers Crisps, now with 50% less salt."

I look on the back of the package.... aaaaaand what's this? Potassium 
chloride? Hmm, I *wonder* why that's in there? :-P

> Ah I knew I'd seen this somewhere
>
http://www.cracked.com/article_17606_7-high-tech-products-their-cheap-ass-ingredients.html

...your source is cracked.com? Uh, right. ;-)

Hey, while you're here... In the UK, all food products are required to 
list their ingredients, in descending order. But are products such as 
shampoo required to do so?


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Dettol protects: Fact?
Date: 18 Nov 2010 07:13:01
Message: <4ce5184d$1@news.povray.org>
On 18/11/2010 11:20 AM, Phil Cook v2 wrote:
> Ah I knew I'd seen this somewhere
>
http://www.cracked.com/article_17606_7-high-tech-products-their-cheap-ass-ingredients.html
> NSFW

The ones that get me are shampoos. For the last 10 years I’ve been using 
hand soap and my head hasn’t fallen off yet.

I would like to agree with the Audio ones but from personal experience 
some of them do make a difference. But if you have a crap HiFi then 
nothing will help.


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	Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Dettol protects: Fact?
Date: 18 Nov 2010 07:16:25
Message: <4ce51919@news.povray.org>
> The ones that get me are shampoos. For the last 10 years I’ve been using
> hand soap and my head hasn’t fallen off yet.

Proper shampoo probably goes on and rinses off more easily. But yeah, I 
wouldn't bother with the expensive ones.

> I would like to agree with the Audio ones but from personal experience
> some of them do make a difference. But if you have a crap HiFi then
> nothing will help.

More amusing are the expensive HDMI cables. The entire point of HDMI of 
course being that it's digital, so it *does not* matter how poor the 
cables are. (Just so long as they're not /utterly/ hopeless...)

I'm told for analogue audio interconnects it can sometimes make a small 
difference. It's not worth £3000 though. My ears aren't that good. :-P


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Dettol protects: Fact?
Date: 18 Nov 2010 07:17:09
Message: <4ce51945$1@news.povray.org>
On 18/11/2010 11:51 AM, Invisible wrote:
> Gotta love the way the advert used to talk about how Dettol kills
> /bacteria/, and lately they suddenly changed it to "germs, including the
> flu virus". Every few syllables is "flu virus". Like it's really
> important or something.

You mean they changed it to kills bacteria? Originally it was kills 
99.9% of all known germs, bacteria must have sounded more scientific.

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	Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Dettol protects: Fact?
Date: 18 Nov 2010 07:22:34
Message: <4ce51a8a$1@news.povray.org>
On 18/11/2010 12:16 PM, Invisible wrote:
>> The ones that get me are shampoos. For the last 10 years I’ve been using
>> hand soap and my head hasn’t fallen off yet.
>
> Proper shampoo probably goes on and rinses off more easily. But yeah, I
> wouldn't bother with the expensive ones.
>

The secret to using soap is to rinse it of straight away.

>> I would like to agree with the Audio ones but from personal experience
>> some of them do make a difference. But if you have a crap HiFi then
>> nothing will help.
>
> More amusing are the expensive HDMI cables. The entire point of HDMI of
> course being that it's digital, so it *does not* matter how poor the
> cables are. (Just so long as they're not /utterly/ hopeless...)
>
> I'm told for analogue audio interconnects it can sometimes make a small
> difference. It's not worth £3000 though. My ears aren't that good. :-P

Not £3000 pounds worth, I agree, unless you've spent £50,000 on an amp 
etc. The best upgrade I've done is to put some gasket material under my 
amp. Although I must admit the gasket had a working pressure of 600 bar 
and it is quite thick. The difference in sound quality is immediate.

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	Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Dettol protects: Fact?
Date: 18 Nov 2010 08:01:26
Message: <4ce523a6$1@news.povray.org>
>> I'm told for analogue audio interconnects it can sometimes make a small
>> difference. It's not worth £3000 though. My ears aren't that good. :-P
>
> Not £3000 pounds worth, I agree, unless you've spent £50,000 on an amp
> etc. The best upgrade I've done is to put some gasket material under my
> amp. Although I must admit the gasket had a working pressure of 600 bar
> and it is quite thick. The difference in sound quality is immediate.

The best upgrade I've done was to buy a pair of £100 Sennheiser 
headphones instead of listening to music on the 40-year old speakers my 
bedroom is equipped with.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Dettol protects: Fact?
Date: 18 Nov 2010 09:41:07
Message: <4ce53b03@news.povray.org>
On 18/11/2010 1:01 PM, Invisible wrote:

> The best upgrade I've done was to buy a pair of £100 Sennheiser
> headphones instead of listening to music on the 40-year old speakers my
> bedroom is equipped with.

That is a good buy.

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	Stephen


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Dettol protects: Fact?
Date: 18 Nov 2010 11:23:59
Message: <4ce5531f$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:
> put some gasket material under my amp.


Under the *amp*?   I could understand under the turntable or under the 
speakers, but what does padding have to do with an amp?

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Serving Suggestion:
     "Don't serve this any more. It's awful."


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Dettol protects: Fact?
Date: 19 Nov 2010 04:33:06
Message: <4ce64452@news.povray.org>
On 18/11/2010 4:23 PM, Darren New wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
>> put some gasket material under my amp.
>
>
> Under the *amp*? I could understand under the turntable or under the
> speakers, but what does padding have to do with an amp?
>

It beats me?
My wife is the hi fi buff, I just do the lifting and wiring. If it were 
left to me, I’d still be using bell wire.
I’ve got two mats and when the bearing went on my turntable, I put one 
under the amp. The change in tone was instant, you could place the 
orchestral instruments much better.
The only thing I can think of is by insulating the amp further it 
reduced the sonic feedback which in turn stops the amp microphone-ing. 
(if that is even a word?)


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	Stephen


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