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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Neural malfunction
Date: 10 Aug 2010 11:25:43
Message: <4c616f77$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> I pretty much only get headaches on the first day back at work after 
> some time off. 

If you work in an office building, I'd bet you $20 it's bad air. Air 
conditioning doesn't ever really bring the CO2 levels down to the same as 
outside air.

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Neural malfunction
Date: 10 Aug 2010 11:51:30
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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >> I'm the kind of person who will go for a walk beside a beautiful lady
> > 
> >   You get to do that? I'm envious.

> OK, this has to be the best typo in history.

> Obviously I intended to type "lake". O_O

  It's called a freudian slip.

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Neural malfunction
Date: 10 Aug 2010 11:57:46
Message: <4c6176fa@news.povray.org>
>> Obviously I intended to type "lake". O_O
> 
>   It's called a freudian slip.

Slip? Try *landslide*. o_O

Man, it's a good thing you can't sustain Freudian head-injuries from 
this stuff...


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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: Neural malfunction
Date: 10 Aug 2010 15:00:47
Message: <4c61a1df$1@news.povray.org>
On 8/10/2010 3:05 AM, Tim Cook wrote:
> On 2010-08-10 04:20, Invisible wrote:
>> This is where things get really weird. I ate a bunch of painkillers over
>> an hour ago, and they still haven't had any effect. But as soon as I
>> started eating food, within literally *minutes* my headache almost
>> completely vanished. WTF is *that* about?!
>>
>> Any unsubstantiated theories? Wild speculation? Baseless diagnosis?
>
> Sounds like the migraines I get that are triggered by (and corrected by
> fixing) my poor sleep/eating habits. They can also be triggered by
> sudden change in caffeine level in body.
>
> --
> Tim Cook
> http://empyrean.freesitespace.net
That was my first thought too. Though, mine are "usually" triggered by 
not drinking enough. Its notable that a) they can seem to fade, a bit, 
after eating, especially if you didn't eat enough, and that accelerated 
the problem, b) drinking water to rehydrate does **nothing** to stave it 
off, and c) at least in my case, it can seem fairly bad, but not 
horribly so, until I actually have to try to rest any, and then 
*everything* drives me up the wall.

The prevention of these tends to be a) acetometiphin (I think its 
called, and in Tylonol?) + caffeine. The caffeine effects blood flow in 
the brain, so if you decrease intake, it takes a bit for your brain to 
re-adjust. Basically, you end up creating one of the conditions that 
**helps** create a migraine by going off it (oh, joy lol). Not sure what 
the other does, but both are needed to deal with it. The **problem** is, 
this combination will only work, and this has been tested medically, if 
you take one *before* you get any symptoms at all, or *just as* you 
start to notice the preliminary symptoms (which in my case is a stiff 
neck and ache in the nerves there). If you take it after you have the 
headache, it does absolutely nothing for you.

Given how easy it is, on my job, to dehydrate, I have made it a habit of 
taking one before work, every day I work more than 4 hours. Its been 
months since I had one. Where, before, I could get one 1-2 times a month.

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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: Neural malfunction
Date: 10 Aug 2010 15:06:48
Message: <4c61a348$1@news.povray.org>
On 8/10/2010 8:25 AM, Darren New wrote:
> scott wrote:
>> I pretty much only get headaches on the first day back at work after
>> some time off.
>
> If you work in an office building, I'd bet you $20 it's bad air. Air
> conditioning doesn't ever really bring the CO2 levels down to the same
> as outside air.
>
Actually.. Could be bad lighting too. Some people are susceptible to the 
flicker in florescent lights, whether working properly or not, though 
not tends to be worse for those people. This can, and does, trigger 
headaches in some people, and could go away, once "re-acclimated" to the 
lighting. Since those types of lights are endemic in most offices, and 
it only effects a small percentage of people, so no one has any plans to 
fix it, it is not at all uncommon.

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     if version = "Vista" {
       call slow_by_half();
       call DRM_everything();
     }
     call functional_code();
   }
   else
     call crash_windows();
}

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Neural malfunction
Date: 10 Aug 2010 15:42:55
Message: <4c61abbf$1@news.povray.org>
Patrick Elliott wrote:
> Actually.. Could be bad lighting too. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOaMeq7HQwE#t=5m40s


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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: Neural malfunction
Date: 10 Aug 2010 20:07:13
Message: <4c61e9b1$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
>>>> Possibly hypoglycaemia.
>>>
>>> That was my thought too. However, it seems hypoglycaemia produces a wide
>>> range of symptons, and I only had one of them.
>>
>> It is not obligatory to have all the symptoms. ;-)
> 
> Sure. But only one of them? That's kind of improbable.
> 

No it isn't. You may have noticed it early enough, relatively, and
treated it with food before it progressed to other symptoms. You can
have a cold virus with only a fever. Hypoglycaemia can also be a single
symptom of other things. And you did end up with the nausea after eating.

Three 9's odds, though, that it is just a headache. Speculation and
baselessness, get someone with a blood sugar meter to test ya first
thing in the morning.

>>> Also... why the **** would I suddenly have hypoglycaemia one day? It's
>>> not as if I've just had a blood transfusion or I haven't eaten for
>>> months or anything...
>>
>> It is a judgement from One on High for swearing with asterisks.
> 
> Oh goodie... 

Doesn't need to be no food for a month. Bet your diet changed while you
were off for a week, maybe had a few more snacks while on break? Extra
carbohydrates during the morning, maybe. The vacation gods will do that
to you, to remind you that you must obey them more often.


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Neural malfunction
Date: 11 Aug 2010 03:38:45
Message: <4c625385@news.povray.org>
>>> I pretty much only get headaches on the first day back at work after
>>> some time off.
>>
>> If you work in an office building, I'd bet you $20 it's bad air. Air
>> conditioning doesn't ever really bring the CO2 levels down to the same
>> as outside air.

You might be right, we only use the air-con here during the summer months so 
I'll remember to check this next time I get a headache at work.  Given that 
I usually take holidays in the summer, there probably was some point where I 
returned back to an air-conditioned office and got a headache.

> Actually.. Could be bad lighting too. Some people are susceptible to the 
> flicker in florescent lights, whether working properly or not, though not 
> tends to be worse for those people. This can, and does, trigger headaches 
> in some people, and could go away, once "re-acclimated" to the lighting.

Another good point, if it's a dull day the office lights are way brighter 
than any light from outside (if it's sunny you don't notice they're on, so 
usually we keep them off to save power).

So it seems if the first day back in the office is a hot, dull day then I'm 
screwed!


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Neural malfunction
Date: 11 Aug 2010 03:55:33
Message: <4c625775$1@news.povray.org>
>>> It is not obligatory to have all the symptoms. ;-)
>> Sure. But only one of them? That's kind of improbable.
> 
> No it isn't. You may have noticed it early enough, relatively, and
> treated it with food before it progressed to other symptoms. You can
> have a cold virus with only a fever. Hypoglycaemia can also be a single
> symptom of other things. And you did end up with the nausea after eating.

The nausia is probably explainable by the fact that I ate an utterly 
*huge* meal. Pasta _usually_ leaves you feeling pretty bloated.

> Three 9's odds, though, that it is just a headache. Speculation and
> baselessness, get someone with a blood sugar meter to test ya first
> thing in the morning.

I'm not keen on the idea of shedding blood just to test a theory.

> Doesn't need to be no food for a month. Bet your diet changed while you
> were off for a week, maybe had a few more snacks while on break? Extra
> carbohydrates during the morning, maybe. The vacation gods will do that
> to you, to remind you that you must obey them more often.

If anything, being off work probably means that I eat *less* than usual...


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Neural malfunction
Date: 12 Aug 2010 08:12:48
Message: <4c63e540@news.povray.org>
On 8/11/2010 2:55 AM, Invisible wrote:

> I'm not keen on the idea of shedding blood just to test a theory.
>

Meh... its only a little prick in the finger. My wife does it twice a 
day. No big deal.

My "diagnosis" is possible sinus headache. I was going to say Migraine, 
but with migraines, you would typically seek the dark and really not 
want to eat; and usually from my experience migraines are like an 
icepick through one eye with sound, light and smell making the nausea 
10x worse. Food would certainly bounce back up if eaten.

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