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Am 25.07.2010 14:36, schrieb Orchid XP v8:
> People have suggested that maybe somebody spiked my drink. All I can say
> is, if that was drugs, I'd like some more please! :-O Seriously, *is*
> there a chemical that makes you feel relaxed, happy, confident, excited
> and energetic? I rather doubt it.
Sounds like you're asking for endorphines. And guess what: They're
legal, and for free :-)
> Is it normal for exercise to provoke these kinds of reactions??
Yes, especially condition training.
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Am 25.07.2010 21:02, schrieb Orchid XP v8:
>>> Is this the same adrenaline that causes rapid heartbeat, stomach cramps,
>>> axiety, profuse sweating, rage, depression and shortness of breath?
>>
>> Yep, it certainly is. It's responsible for a fair amount.
>
> Right. So.. .the adrenaline that makes you feel awful is also
> responsible for me feeling so mellowed out? How does *that* work??
I guess the difference is whether you "let it out": Adrenaline is meant
to give an extra power boost to your body to either fight or run. If you
fail to do either, it will kick your own ass.
Rapid heartbeat and shortness of breath: Preparation for increased
oxygen demand.
Stomach cramps: Possibly preparation to literally drop some ballast.
Sweating: Preparation for increased heat production.
Rage: The emotional state associated with the decision to fight.
Anxiety: The emotional state associated with the decision to run.
Depression: The emotional state associated with being unable to either
fight or run. The natural state of waiting for the jackals and vultures
to come and get you, or a miracle to save you.
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Am 26.07.2010 12:14, schrieb Invisible:
> Bugger that. I'll stick to my dancing; it's probably just as good a
> workout, it's far more fun and it's drastically cheaper. :-P
Possibly so. The fun factor is especially valuable.
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:26:49 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> On 26/07/2010 12:37 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>> I've only been to the gym once since October....and I think I need to
>> start going again.
>>
>> Thing is, I actually can get a membership rate that's lower through my
>> insurance company, but I have to cancel my current membership, and
>> everything I've read says that doing so requires an act of $DEITY and
>> has all sorts of conditions tied to it.
>>
>> One of those may well be (and it isn't clear) that I can't come in as a
>> new member again, which is one of the caveats of getting the membership
>> through in insurance company.<sigh>
>>
>>
> Is there another gym you can go to?
There is, in fact the ins co covers multiple gyms, but I actually really
like the one I'm at (but then again, it's the first one I've gone to, so
going somewhere else might show me that I'm actually missing something).
> I suppose you've thought of that so please disregard.
:-)
Jim
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:14:20 +0100, Invisible wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>> I've only been to the gym once since October....and I think I need to
>> start going again.
>
> I asked the local gym, but they want £52 *per month* just to give me the
> _option_ of going to the gym. Then when I actually go there's another
> fee on top of that.
That's crazy - a lot more than I currently pay (about $30/month).
> Bugger that. I'll stick to my dancing; it's probably just as good a
> workout, it's far more fun and it's drastically cheaper. :-P
Out of curiosity, are the leisure centers similarly equipped and is there
a cost to go there?
Jim
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nemesis <nam### [at] gmail com> wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> > People have suggested that maybe somebody spiked my drink. All I can say
> > is, if that was drugs, I'd like some more please! :-O Seriously, *is*
> > there a chemical that makes you feel relaxed, happy, confident, excited
> > and energetic?
> Yes. That's why they are illegal. and expensive.
I thought they are illegal because they have a very high risk of causing
heavy addiction, which not only has negative health effects but also has a
bunch of other negative side-effects (such as increasing crime rates because
many people can't afford the substances and thus have to steal in order to
get them).
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On 27/07/2010 7:08 AM, Warp wrote:
> nemesis<nam### [at] gmail com> wrote:
>> Orchid XP v8<voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
>>> People have suggested that maybe somebody spiked my drink. All I can say
>>> is, if that was drugs, I'd like some more please! :-O Seriously, *is*
>>> there a chemical that makes you feel relaxed, happy, confident, excited
>>> and energetic?
>
>> Yes. That's why they are illegal. and expensive.
>
> I thought they are illegal because they have a very high risk of causing
> heavy addiction, which not only has negative health effects but also has a
> bunch of other negative side-effects (such as increasing crime rates because
> many people can't afford the substances and thus have to steal in order to
> get them).
>
us than we do ourselves.
Bampots!
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:28:30 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> Nah! They are illegal because the “law makers” know what is better for
> us than we do ourselves.
>
> Bampots!
You took the words right out of my mouth. I hope I didn't bite you. :-)
(Though I wouldn't have said 'lawmakers' but rather 'moral majority' here
in the US)
Jim
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On 7/27/2010 11:50 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:28:30 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>> Nah! They are illegal because the “law makers” know what is better for
>> us than we do ourselves.
>>
>> Bampots!
>
> You took the words right out of my mouth. I hope I didn't bite you. :-)
>
> (Though I wouldn't have said 'lawmakers' but rather 'moral majority' here
> in the US)
>
> Jim
Oh, give me a break. Yeah, there are some "low level" things, like pot,
for which this is a believable assertion. And, it doesn't follow that
they can tell you that you "must" wire buildings a certain way, for
public safety, and do so licensed, but they can't tell you that you are
not allowed to do so why taking cocaine. Either there is a hazard, or
their isn't. The problem, in a nutshell, is that a small number of
purists think *everything* is a hazard, including, in some case, the one
they tried to ban before, but now only keep people from buying, in some
places, on Sundays, whether it qualifies or not.
I do, however, agree with the argument that it also costs the tax payer
money to cover treatment for avoidable problems, from things like
cigarettes, and that this *could be* a legitimate grounds to
limits/curtail their use. Unless you are a Rethuglican, in which case
pot is evil, but you should be allowed to smoke yourself to death, at a
huge cost to the federal and state budgets, with impunity... lol
Nearly everything else *is* addictive, sometimes instantly, and
permanently alters brain chemistry, such that you also have to keep
trying to take more of it, to get the same result, not to mention
placing most people that take them in a state of mind that they
literally can't imagine doing anything to hurt anyone else, even while,
in the case of the nastiest of them, they are running them over with a
car. The drunk is similarly bad, but it takes way more to do that, and
they are not going to be laughing their ass off, as they run you over,
they just won't notice they hit you. That bars can have X drink
minimums, but no means/attempt is made to try to keep people from going
to 40 bars and buying the minimum 2 drinks at every damn one of them, is
something I have thought is bloody assed stupid. Sure, the solution
would be complicated, and some people would cheat, and some wackos would
whine about the government "watching them", or some BS, if they had to
have their ID scanned every time, and bars where networked to track that
stuff. But, arresting 2% of all the idiots that get stinking drunk,
hoping it will make the other 98% think twice? That is just flat out
useless.
Mind, read an article recently about the other "you really don't want to
take this recreationally, if you plan to do anything except sit around
under its influence, class of psychedelics. One called Ibogaine has two
interesting effects. Its psychedelic effect is a replay of past events
in your life, and it seems to reset brain chemistry, eliminating all
addiction to other substances. The problem is, its insanely easy to
overdose on it, and the UK had a serious of deaths in the program they
where testing it in.
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:15:23 -0700, Patrick Elliott wrote:
> Oh, give me a break. Yeah, there are some "low level" things, like pot,
> for which this is a believable assertion.
The people who are for the prohibition of drugs use the same logic that
brought about alcohol prohibition in the 30's. It's not about the costs
to cover treatment and such - it's about it being "bad" for people to do
that. It's about one group of people asserting their sense of moral
superiority.
Understand, I have never done drugs, I never intend to do drugs, and I
have no desire to do them. I personally wouldn't because I do think it
would be bad for me (in a number of ways). I come at this from a
standpoint of not having experienced anything related to the types of
drugs we're talking about (I once got pretty tripped out on Hydrocodone,
which I react very badly to, but that's a slightly different story
because it was something obtained with a prescription).
If someone wants to be addicted to cigarettes, pot, alcohol, etc - as
long as they're not impacting me (through secondhand smoke, for example),
I don't care. They can knock themselves out. Once it leaves them, just
as with alcohol, then there are consequences and let the consequences be
steep (as they are for DUI, for example).
Legalization can make those drugs a tax base (as with cigarettes and
alcohol, and being in Utah, I know a thing or three about alcohol taxes
because they're DAMNED high here) and legalization can turn it into an
actual industry, with quality control and the like. I don't think it's
naive to think that - I think that's what we saw with alcohol when
prohibition was repealed. Sure, some people still make their own hooch
at home (we've been known to make wine ourselves), but the vast majority
comes from licensed establishments and sales venues, and there are pretty
strict controls over the production of alcohol.
It's been done before, and the only thing stopping it from being done
again is people who - as I said - try to assert that they have a moral
imperative (and hence a moral superiority) to prohibit those substances,
and I for one, thing that's total BS.
Jim
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