Definitely go see this in the theater. The bigger the better.

It's very complex and visually pretty darn stunning. Plus, it's the first 
completely new idea I've seen in years and years, and not even a tiny bit 
cliche.

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Definitely go see this in the theater. The bigger the better.

> It's very complex and visually pretty darn stunning. Plus, it's the first 
> completely new idea I've seen in years and years, and not even a tiny bit 
> cliche.

  I went to watch it. The idea and plot was quite cool, but I didn't really
think it was so heavy on the visuals that you would miss much by watching
it on a smaller screen, though. There were some big visual effects, yes,
but it didn't rely on them quite that much (which is a good thing, mind you).

  I like this kind of screenwriting where everything is not spoonfed to
the viewers, every little detail explained clearly and in simple terms
so that even the dumbest viewers can understand what's going on, but
instead the viewer has to be attentive to catch on and understand the
details.

  I thought, however, that the very last scene was a bit cheap of a trick
(I'm not going to spoil it here, though).

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Warp wrote:
>   I thought, however, that the very last scene was a bit cheap of a trick

Funny enough, if you read the discussions and reviews and such, it becomes 
clear it's not nearly the cheap trick it seems in the theater.  Again, I 
can't say much more than that without spoilers.

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  SPOILER WARNING
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  (It's not a huge spoiler, mind you, but personally I hate any kinds of
spoilers so much that I want to warn even about minor ones. And this is
about the very end of the movie, so if you haven't watched the movie,
please just skip reading this.)


Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> >   I thought, however, that the very last scene was a bit cheap of a trick

> Funny enough, if you read the discussions and reviews and such, it becomes 
> clear it's not nearly the cheap trick it seems in the theater.  Again, I 
> can't say much more than that without spoilers.

  With "cheap trick" I don't really mean that it was *bad* per se. I just
found the very final image of the movie leaving it undecided whether that
final scene was just a dream or reality (because the movie ends just before
it becomes clear) was rather "cheap", especially after the marvelously
complex plot of the entire rest of the movie.

  Oh, and by the way: Thanks for recommending this movie (without spoilers).
Without your post I would have never figured out to go to see precisely
this movie, and it was just marvelous.

  I succeeded in going to see this movie to the theater without knowing
*anything at all* about the movie. I didn't have even the slightest idea
what the movie was about. The *only* thing I had ever seen about the movie
before actually seeing it was one movie poster, and even that just in
passing, without scrutinizing it too much.

  That's how like it. And in this case the experience was superb.

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Warp wrote:
> found the very final image of the movie leaving it undecided whether that
> final scene was just a dream or reality

But it doesn't. That's the trick. The top doesn't tell you if Cobb is dreaming.

>   Oh, and by the way: Thanks for recommending this movie (without spoilers).
> Without your post I would have never figured out to go to see precisely
> this movie, and it was just marvelous.

No problem.  I'm glad you enjoyed it.  It was very non-Hollywood, wasn't it? :-)

>   That's how like it. And in this case the experience was superb.

Yah.

Here's another hint: Avoid the Tron:Legacy previews. They give away big 
chunks of plot, to the point that I can now, from watching one trailer, 
pretty much guess the plot of the whole movie, because they were stupid and 
put in the "Luke, I am your father" line in the trailer. Foo. :-)

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> writes:

> Warp wrote:
>> found the very final image of the movie leaving it undecided whether that
>> final scene was just a dream or reality
>
> But it doesn't. That's the trick. The top doesn't tell you if Cobb is dreaming.

It's not obvious that the director realized that.<G>

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Neeum Zawan wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> writes:
> 
>> Warp wrote:
>>> found the very final image of the movie leaving it undecided whether that
>>> final scene was just a dream or reality
>> But it doesn't. That's the trick. The top doesn't tell you if Cobb is dreaming.
> 
> It's not obvious that the director realized that.<G>

Hmmm. I would disagree, but I don't want to spoil things here.

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  SPOILERS. Please don't read if you haven't seen the movie.
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > found the very final image of the movie leaving it undecided whether that
> > final scene was just a dream or reality

> But it doesn't. That's the trick. The top doesn't tell you if Cobb is dreaming.

  Now that you mention that, and I think about it, it was not him who put
it in the safe. So it was probably not his totem. But what does it mean that
he has it and uses it? I think my head is starting to hurt... (figuratively
speaking.)

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Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
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>
>
>
>   Now that you mention that, and I think about it, it was not him who put
> it in the safe. So it was probably not his totem. But what does it mean that
> he has it and uses it? I think my head is starting to hurt... (figuratively
> speaking.)

He says earlier that it's his wife's totem. But he has adopted it as his own
since her death.

What bugs me is why Fischer doesn't recognise everybody when he wakes up and
smell a rat...

Awesome movie tho. :)

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> Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
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> >
> >
> >   Now that you mention that, and I think about it, it was not him who put
> > it in the safe. So it was probably not his totem. But what does it mean that
> > he has it and uses it? I think my head is starting to hurt... (figuratively
> > speaking.)

> He says earlier that it's his wife's totem. But he has adopted it as his own
> since her death.

> What bugs me is why Fischer doesn't recognise everybody when he wakes up and
> smell a rat...

  Well, at least in real life you remember a dream only if you wake up in
the middle of it. If you wake up between dreams you won't remember.

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