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From: Slime
Subject: Re: Win7 woes...
Date: 24 Jun 2010 02:45:14
Message: <4c22fefa$1@news.povray.org>
> Will a better video card help? I bought the cheapest video card I could
 > find, an nVidia GeForce 210. Better than the onboard video.

I bet it will. The problems you're describing sound almost like you 
don't have hardware acceleration.

Try this and see if it makes anything better: Right click on desktop, 
personalize, scroll down to "basic and high contrast themes" and choose 
"windows 7 basic." This turns off a lot of flashy features like 
transparency on the window borders.

If that partly helps but not all the way, I would definitely try a 
better video card.

  - Slime


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Win7 woes...
Date: 24 Jun 2010 04:14:57
Message: <4c231401$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:

> If you just installed Win7 within a day or two, you might be feeling the 
> pain of it trying to index the entire hard drive for searching, or some 
> such.

Isn't this fun?

By the way, for reasons beyond my comprehension, OpenSUSE comes with a 
cron job set up to periodically reindex all the manpages. (WTF? WHY??) 
And of course the automatic updates which I've repeatedly turned off and 
yet they still run... Trying to run this thing in a VM is so frustrating!


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From: Aydan
Subject: Re: Win7 woes...
Date: 24 Jun 2010 12:05:00
Message: <web.4c2381af1a21a33c3771cd8e0@news.povray.org>
Slime <pov### [at] slimelandcom> wrote:
> > Will a better video card help? I bought the cheapest video card I could
>  > find, an nVidia GeForce 210. Better than the onboard video.
>
> I bet it will. The problems you're describing sound almost like you
> don't have hardware acceleration.
>
> Try this and see if it makes anything better: Right click on desktop,
> personalize, scroll down to "basic and high contrast themes" and choose
> "windows 7 basic." This turns off a lot of flashy features like
> transparency on the window borders.
>
> If that partly helps but not all the way, I would definitely try a
> better video card.
>
>   - Slime

Hi,

I'm running Win7 64bit on a Athlon64 X2 4000+ with a Geforce 6600 (256MB) with
Aero active and it's not really sluggish, so the Geforce 210 should be more than
sufficient to handle Aero.
You might have a resource hungry virus scanner for example.
Disconnect your PC from the Network and disable the Antivir. If this speeds
things up you should look for a smarter Antivir.

Regards
Aydan


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Win7 woes...
Date: 25 Jun 2010 02:43:22
Message: <4c24500a@news.povray.org>
> I'm running Win7 64bit on a Athlon64 X2 4000+ with a Geforce 6600 (256MB) 
> with
> Aero active and it's not really sluggish, so the Geforce 210 should be 
> more than
> sufficient to handle Aero.
> You might have a resource hungry virus scanner for example.
> Disconnect your PC from the Network and disable the Antivir. If this 
> speeds
> things up you should look for a smarter Antivir.

Yes check the network setup, IME explorer reacts very badly (ie the GUI 
becomes very unresponsive) to slow or unavailable network resources.


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From: SharkD
Subject: Re: Win7 woes...
Date: 25 Jun 2010 09:05:49
Message: <4c24a9ad$1@news.povray.org>
On 6/24/2010 2:45 AM, Slime wrote:
> Try this and see if it makes anything better: Right click on desktop,
> personalize, scroll down to "basic and high contrast themes" and choose
> "windows 7 basic." This turns off a lot of flashy features like
> transparency on the window borders.

Already have it set to Basic! ;)

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From: SharkD
Subject: Re: Win7 woes...
Date: 25 Jun 2010 16:19:25
Message: <4c250f4d@news.povray.org>
OK, here's an image of what's going on in my system when it's idling:


http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp292/SharkD2161/Support/windows7_idling.png


I have no idea how to interpret these values, other than, "Empty, black 
space is good."



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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Win7 woes...
Date: 25 Jun 2010 16:26:20
Message: <4c2510ec@news.povray.org>
SharkD wrote:
> OK, here's an image of what's going on in my system when it's idling:
> 
> 
> http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp292/SharkD2161/Support/windows7_idling.png 
> 
> 
> 
> I have no idea how to interpret these values, other than, "Empty, black 
> space is good."

That's a hack of a lot of I/O for an "idling" system. (If it really was 
idling, of course, it would be zero bytes I/O...) Quite clearly it's 
doing *something* fairly intensive in the background.

(The good news is, it doesn't appear to be swapping, or even coming 
anywhere remotely near to swapping. You've still got acres of physical 
RAM you can use before you need to start hitting virtual memory.)

Try punching up Process Explorer and adding the CPU History and I/O 
Bytes History columns, vis:

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From: SharkD
Subject: Re: Win7 woes...
Date: 25 Jun 2010 17:45:44
Message: <4c252388@news.povray.org>
On 6/25/2010 4:26 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Try punching up Process Explorer and adding the CPU History and I/O
> Bytes History columns, vis:
>

Woah! You can attach files in this group!

I'm not seeing much of anything...

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Win7 woes...
Date: 25 Jun 2010 18:02:11
Message: <4c252763$1@news.povray.org>
SharkD wrote:
> OK, here's an image of what's going on in my system when it's idling:

If it's really idle, I'm susprised you have a page fault delta of almost 
5000. Even with stuff running in the background (music, sidebar, etc) I'm 
getting only a small PFDelta (<200) on Vista.

Find the resource monitor that looks like this:

http://www.techsupportalert.com/files/images/rm_overview_1.jpg

On Vista, there's a "resource monitor" button on the task manager 
performance page. Or type it into the control panel or start bar or 
something, to search?

It'll tell you what actual files etc are being accessed.

But, really, it doesn't look like it should be slow. As folks have said, it 
doesn't look very busy.

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    is that it's best implementation comes
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From: Le Forgeron
Subject: Re: Win7 woes...
Date: 28 Jun 2010 10:09:05
Message: <4c28ad01$1@news.povray.org>
Le 25/06/2010 22:19, SharkD a écrit :
> OK, here's an image of what's going on in my system when it's idling:
> 
> 
> http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp292/SharkD2161/Support/windows7_idling.png
> 
May be Microsoft is indexing your hard disk while idle, so that your
next search might be quicker. A great classical from the Redmont Firm.
(or it is just "defragmenting" in silence)

Or you might have some hidden process/virus, serving as a bot in botnet
(a shame you do not see the network traffic too).


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