Am 12.06.2010 19:31, schrieb Orchid XP v8:

>>> And since I don't own or want to own an iPhone, why would I know about
>>> this?
>>
>> Maybe by keeping your eyes and ears open to what's going on around you?
>
> I don't own an iPhone, I've never (knowingly) met anybody else who owns
> an iPhone. (I was under the impression that it's extortionately
> expsensive due to how shiny it is.) And I don't watch TV (probably the
> only place it's advertised), so... why would I know much about it?
> (Other than having heard that it exists, anyway.)

I don't own an iPhone either, I've never knowingly met anybody else who 
owns one either until yesterday (and I didn't see the guy use the 
touchscreen), I don't even own a TV set, and only very rarely do I turn 
on the radio. Still I've heard of its touchscreen capabilities.

Computer magazines?

Searching through the internerds because you're curious what's so 
special about the iPhone that everybody's talking about it?

Leaving that aside, the iPhone is not the first consumer device to come 
with a touchscreen - PDAs have been featuring touchscreens at least 
since 2002.

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clipka wrote:

> Leaving that aside, the iPhone is not the first consumer device to come 
> with a touchscreen - PDAs have been featuring touchscreens at least 
> since 2002.

I thought most PDAs come with a stylus? (Or they have a useless 
trackball like that Blackberry I had the misfortune of needing to 
configure...)

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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >> I wasn't aware that the iPhone has a touch-screen. (I hadn't really
> >> thought about it...)
> >
> > ZOMG, are you from Mars?!
> >
> > it's been its killer feature upon launch time!
>
> And since I don't own or want to own an iPhone, why would I know about this?

neither do I, yet it was so heavily hyped that I can't believe someone in this
planet would not know about it.

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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> I don't know. Maybe it's just because it's Saturday morning and *yet
> again* I'm sitting all alone in my bedroom feeling bored and lonely,
> with nowhere to go and nobody to talk to. Perhaps I just need to go
> listen to some more Neil Sekada or something...

perhaps you need a baby.  More than a woman, having to feed a baby should boost
your morale...

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Am 12.06.2010 19:38, schrieb Orchid XP v8:

> Well... my mother always said "if you don't have anything nice to say,
> don't say anything". Maybe I need to apply that to talking about me?

Yup. It /does/ have an effect.

>> Could it be that being a loser once used to be a way for you to gain
>> something? Attention perhaps?
>>
>> Gee, and we're delivering just that right now...
>
>  From what I've seen, *not* being a loser gets you way, way more
> attention. Of a more satisfying kind. (Although not _all_ necessarily
> good...)

/Knowing/ a fact does not necessarily prevent people from acting 
according to earlier contrary conditioning. In early childhood (and even 
later in life), people learn a lot that they're not even aware of, some 
of which may be pretty bogus.

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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> clipka wrote:
>
> > Leaving that aside, the iPhone is not the first consumer device to come
> > with a touchscreen - PDAs have been featuring touchscreens at least
> > since 2002.
>
> I thought most PDAs come with a stylus? (Or they have a useless
> trackball like that Blackberry I had the misfortune of needing to
> configure...)


true.  The iPhone is no mere touchscreen:  it's multitouch. :)

You may zoom in and out of photos by using two fingers at once to make it bigger
or smaller.

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Am 12.06.2010 20:57, schrieb Orchid XP v8:
> clipka wrote:
>
>> Leaving that aside, the iPhone is not the first consumer device to
>> come with a touchscreen - PDAs have been featuring touchscreens at
>> least since 2002.
>
> I thought most PDAs come with a stylus? (Or they have a useless
> trackball like that Blackberry I had the misfortune of needing to
> configure...)

They typically do - but AFAIK each and every PDA sold today can also be 
operated with fingers, toothpicks or whatever if needs be. And at least 
/my/ PDA with integrated phone I owned back in 2002 was 
"finger-sensitive", too.

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Am 12.06.2010 21:02, schrieb nemesis:
> Orchid XP v8<voi### [at] devnull>  wrote:
>> I don't know. Maybe it's just because it's Saturday morning and *yet
>> again* I'm sitting all alone in my bedroom feeling bored and lonely,
>> with nowhere to go and nobody to talk to. Perhaps I just need to go
>> listen to some more Neil Sekada or something...
>
> perhaps you need a baby.  More than a woman, having to feed a baby should boost
> your morale...

Uh... for the sake of the baby, maybe he should start with a pet >_<

And no - don't go for a hamster, or anything with a short lifespan... 
they're not too encouraging I guess... I'm thinking more along the lines 
of a dog. Cats are probably no good either: They tend to look down on 
you no matter how great you are.

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clipka wrote:
> Am 12.06.2010 21:02, schrieb nemesis:
>> Orchid XP v8<voi### [at] devnull>  wrote:
>>> I don't know. Maybe it's just because it's Saturday morning and *yet
>>> again* I'm sitting all alone in my bedroom feeling bored and lonely,
>>> with nowhere to go and nobody to talk to. Perhaps I just need to go
>>> listen to some more Neil Sekada or something...
>>
>> perhaps you need a baby.  More than a woman, having to feed a baby
>> should boost
>> your morale...
> 
> Uh... for the sake of the baby, maybe he should start with a pet >_<
> 
> And no - don't go for a hamster, or anything with a short lifespan...
> they're not too encouraging I guess... I'm thinking more along the lines
> of a dog. Cats are probably no good either: They tend to look down on
> you no matter how great you are.

Maybe start with a stuffed animal?

Not all cats are elitist fuzz-and-claws. Some fuss when they are more
than an arms length away from someone. Mine yowls when he has to use his
litter in the middle of the night, since it means leaving the room.
Howls on the way out and back, just to wake me up and let me know that I
am missed. Could do without that, actually.

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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Stephen wrote:


>> not to give into despair.
> 
> I don't know. Maybe it's just because it's Saturday morning and *yet
> again* I'm sitting all alone in my bedroom feeling bored and lonely,
> with nowhere to go and nobody to talk to. Perhaps I just need to go
> listen to some more Neil Sekada or something...
> 

Don't listen to bored and lonely music when you are bored and lonely.
Occasionally is one thing, but you get in a habit of that and it's bad
for your moods. Feedback cycles. Experience taught me not to listen to
The Weakerthans while upset.

I recommend upbeat synth-pop if you can stand it.

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