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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Tabulation
Date: 6 May 2010 05:26:09
Message: <4be28b31$1@news.povray.org>
>> (You have no idea how many different sources I had to consult to piece 
>> this information togather...)
> 
> Isn't it all on this page?
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_microprocessors

No. Actually this doesn't describe *any* Core i3, Core i5 or Core i7 
processors, only the older Core 1 and Core 2. The requisit pages are 
linked at the bottom.

Even here, the information isn't in a particularly easy form to 
assimilate. This table summarises it at a glance.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Tabulation
Date: 6 May 2010 05:27:00
Message: <4be28b64$1@news.povray.org>
Am 06.05.2010 11:20, schrieb scott:
>> Complicated enough??
>>
>> (You have no idea how many different sources I had to consult to piece
>> this information togather...)
>
> Isn't it all on this page?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_microprocessors

Did you actually bother to /read/ the article? There's exactly /one/ 
single place where it mentions i3, i5 and i7 respectively: The "see 
also" section :-P


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Tabulation
Date: 6 May 2010 05:27:46
Message: <4be28b92$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Complicated enough??
> 
> (You have no idea how many different sources I had to consult to piece 
> this information togather...)

Damnit, and I *still* forgot to include the required RAM types... *sigh*


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Tabulation
Date: 6 May 2010 05:33:27
Message: <4be28ce7$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:

> Damnit, and I *still* forgot to include the required RAM types... *sigh*

Fixed.

Now all I need to do is stare at 20,000 benchmarks and slowly go mad...


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Tabulation
Date: 6 May 2010 06:17:53
Message: <4be29751@news.povray.org>
>> Isn't it all on this page?
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_microprocessors
> 
> Did you actually bother to /read/ the article? 

No :-)

> There's exactly /one/ 
> single place where it mentions i3, i5 and i7 respectively: The "see 
> also" section :-P

Well there you go!


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Tabulation
Date: 6 May 2010 10:34:56
Message: <op.vcaf39lhufxv4h@go-dynamite>
On Thu, 06 May 2010 11:16:36 +0200, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

> Complicated enough??
>
> (You have no idea how many different sources I had to consult to piece
> this information togather...)

Core i7 980X Extreme Edition
*drool*

-Nekar Xenos-


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Tabulation
Date: 6 May 2010 10:55:05
Message: <4be2d849@news.povray.org>
Nekar Xenos wrote:

> Core i7 980X Extreme Edition
> *drool*

http://uk.insight.com/apps/productpresentation/index.php?product_id=ITOA06ZGW



Drool all you want, you can't afford it. ;-)

Then again, several of the benchmarks I've looked at have the 2-core 
Core i3 chips at the top of the table, with the 6-core EE chip several 
seconds slower. (Multithreaded, MUCH?)

The real question, of course, is whether the triple-channel RAM (which 
makes the motherboard 120% more expensive) is actually worth it... This 
seems to vary by benchmark.

I wonder how long it will take for hexacore to become cost-effective? 
(Or how long before software starts using it - most software I've seen 
is still doggedly single-threaded!)


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From: Phil Cook v2
Subject: Re: Tabulation
Date: 6 May 2010 11:14:29
Message: <op.vcahyim5mn4jds@phils>
And lo On Thu, 06 May 2010 10:33:27 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did  
spake thusly:

> Invisible wrote:
>
>> Damnit, and I *still* forgot to include the required RAM types... *sigh*
>
> Fixed.
>
> Now all I need to do is stare at 20,000 benchmarks and slowly go mad...

Tcch where are the frequency ranges and the L3 cache sizes?

I know the feeling though as DaBoss is throwing in the towel with Windows  
and PC's and wants to go down the dominatrix route with Apple. So i7 or i5  
processor, which ones are they using - doesn't say. Well how many cores  
does it have - doesn't say. Okay something simple, he complains about the  
weight of his laptop so roughly how much does each 'size' weigh - doesn't  
say.

Digging around beyond the configuration screen it states they're using the  
32nm dual cores, tying that to the speeds and the 2xRAM sticks means the  
i5-540M and the i7-620M, still can't find weights except "light" and still  
no built-in Blu-ray option, go figure.

-- 
Phil Cook

--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Tabulation
Date: 6 May 2010 11:36:29
Message: <4be2e1fd$1@news.povray.org>
>> Now all I need to do is stare at 20,000 benchmarks and slowly go mad...
> 
> Tcch where are the frequency ranges and the L3 cache sizes?

The main point of interest is which motherboard to get.

A board with dual-channel RAM costs about £65+, whereas for 
triple-channel RAM it's £145+. Slight difference there. I also want to 
know how many cores I'm getting. Other than that, processors come and 
go; if you've got the right board, you can change CPU later. But get the 
wrong board and you've got a problem...

In some respects, the i3/i5/i7 is a nice idea. But when the i7 is 
available in two different socket configurations, suddenly you *do* have 
to care whether it's Lynnfield, Bloomfield or Gulftown. (Although 
frankly, if it's Gulftown, you can obviously afford to buy three 
motherboards of each kind anyway because you have *far* more money than 
sense!)

> I know the feeling though as DaBoss is throwing in the towel with 
> Windows and PC's and wants to go down the dominatrix route with Apple. 

You've got to admit, it *is* shiny.

I was almost tempted by a PowerMac with it's two quad-core Xeons. (Until 
I saw the price, obviously.)

> So i7 or i5 processor, which ones are they using - doesn't say.

I would guess it's Core 2 rather than Core i7 or Core i5.

> Well how many cores does it have - doesn't say.

If it's a laptop, you can almost guarantee it's dual-core. Remember that 
"mobile" CPUs are different to desktop ones; few quad-core mobile CPUs 
currently exist, AFAIK.

> Okay something simple, he 
> complains about the weight of his laptop so roughly how much does each 
> 'size' weigh - doesn't say.

Now that I would have thought would be documented somewhere...

How heavy is "too much" though? ;-)


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From: Phil Cook v2
Subject: Re: Tabulation
Date: 6 May 2010 12:08:25
Message: <op.vcakgee5mn4jds@phils>
And lo On Thu, 06 May 2010 16:36:28 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did  
spake thusly:

>> I know the feeling though as DaBoss is throwing in the towel with  
>> Windows and PC's and wants to go down the dominatrix route with Apple.
>
> You've got to admit, it *is* shiny.

It is very shiny.

>> Okay something simple, he complains about the weight of his laptop so  
>> roughly how much does each 'size' weigh - doesn't say.
>
> Now that I would have thought would be documented somewhere...

If it is it's not obviously placed.

> How heavy is "too much" though? ;-)

His laptop is heavy, then again it is a gaming rig because he wanted the  
POWER and it is 3 years old.

It's just a 'my mate's got one and he likes it'; and 'it will handle  
emails better' yes because it won't be using the crap-tastic Outlook 2007  
with it's Word HTML engine that we had to install so as to get your mobile  
contacts to sync with the crappy mobile software; and 'my mate just opened  
it and it was ready to use' well yes yours can do that to you just close  
the lid then open it again and tap in your password ya know like you do  
every damn day; and 'it will work better with my iPhone' gosh will it an  
Apple iPhone and an Apple iMac both with their strictly controlled  
software ya might be right there I'd never have guessed that; and 'it will  
talk to the internet and the printer and everything better' yes because  
it's magic.

Sigh.

-- 
Phil Cook

--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com


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