On 13/05/2010 5:31 PM, Darren New wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
>> But the world will stop turning if we don’t have a government, so the
>> politicians say. :-P
>
> As opposed to California, where we have lots and lots of government, and
> they still manage to deadlock each other so much that the governator
> winds up giving out IOUs instead of paychecks to the employees.
>

Wasn’t California in danger of becoming bankrupt recently?


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On Thu, 13 May 2010 17:56:06 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 13/05/2010 5:29 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 11:33:53 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> On 13/05/2010 10:08 AM, andrel wrote:
>>>> BTW did we already congratulate you on your new government?
>>>
>>> Thanks but I don’t know if congratulations are in order. ;-)
>>
>> Well, think of it this way - with Cameron as PM, he's got to make
>> several unpopular decisions, and according to at least one pundit (I
>> forget who), those decisions could well exclude that party from being
>> in power for more than 5 years. (The article my wife read suggested
>> that the winner wouldn't be in power for a generation after they got
>> done).
>>
>>
> I think that that was Mervyn King the Governor of the Bank of England.
> And your wife is correct about being out of power for a generation.

Could be, that sounds familiar (I'd ask her, but she's off at a class at 
the moment).

So there is a silver lining. :-)

>> So if you're not a fan of the Tories, this is a really good thing.
>>
>>
> The 1st Duke of Wellington and the 2nd Earl Grey will be turning in
> their graves at the thought of the Whigs and Tories in coalition.

Well, yeah - I found *that* to be quite surprising, the Lib Dems and 
Labor are a much more natural pairing (though that didn't make for a 
majority either).  I think the Lib Dems have played this quite well, 20 
cabinet seats and a fair amount of deniability for policies the Tories 
put in place.

But I know that many in Scotland are apoplectic over the coalition.  That 
can only help the SNP, right?  (I don't know enough about the SNP to know 
if that's a good thing or not, but it *sounds* like it is).

>>>> And on the speed they formed one. Here it often takes months to form
>>>> a government.
>>>
>>> But the world will stop turning if we don’t have a government, so the
>>> politicians say. :-P
>>
>> Certainly their world will stop turning. ;-)
>>
>>
> Especially if no one noticed.

LOL, too true.

Jim

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Stephen wrote:
> Wasn’t California in danger of becoming bankrupt recently?

Everyone is already bankrupt. That's the nature of government and debt-ba
sed 
money.

The danger (and what came to pass) is that they got *so* bankrupt they 
couldn't meet their obligations even *with* the ability to print money 
and/or take it from someone else by force.  But it's kind of complicated 

because the feds take huge amounts of money, then give it back in differe
nt 
allocations to the states, so the state being bankrupt was at least as mu
ch 
the fault of the federal government as anyone here.  The thieves were 
stealing from each other too hard.

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    you literally shooting yourself in the foot.

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On 13/05/2010 6:01 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> I think that that was Mervyn King the Governor of the Bank of England.
>> >  And your wife is correct about being out of power for a generation.
> Could be, that sounds familiar (I'd ask her, but she's off at a class at
> the moment).
>

I looked it up. :-)

> So there is a silver lining.:-)
>

Maybe, We had 18 years of Tories then 13 years of Tories (New Labour) 
and the Lib Dems turn out to be Tories now :-(

>>> >>  So if you're not a fan of the Tories, this is a really good thing.
>>> >>

I'm not a happy bunny ATM

>>> >>
>> >  The 1st Duke of Wellington and the 2nd Earl Grey will be turning in
>> >  their graves at the thought of the Whigs and Tories in coalition.
> Well, yeah - I found*that*  to be quite surprising, the Lib Dems and
> Labor are a much more natural pairing (though that didn't make for a
> majority either).

True.

>I think the Lib Dems have played this quite well, 20
> cabinet seats and a fair amount of deniability for policies the Tories
> put in place.

Yeah politicians, not a principle between them.

>
> But I know that many in Scotland are apoplectic over the coalition.  That
> can only help the SNP, right?  (I don't know enough about the SNP to know
> if that's a good thing or not, but it*sounds*  like it is).
>

Tartan Tories!

OK that is what they were 40 years ago but it still riles them. :-D

>>>>> >>>>  And on the speed they formed one. Here it often takes months to form
>>>>> >>>>  a government.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>  But the world will stop turning if we don’t have a government, so the
>>>> >>>  politicians say.:-P
>>> >>
>>> >>  Certainly their world will stop turning.;-)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>> >  Especially if no one noticed.
> LOL, too true.
>

Oh! Yes :-D

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On 13/05/2010 6:20 PM, Darren New wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
>> Wasn’t California in danger of becoming bankrupt recently?
>
> Everyone is already bankrupt. That's the nature of government and
> debt-based money.
>
> The danger (and what came to pass) is that they got *so* bankrupt they
> couldn't meet their obligations even *with* the ability to print money
> and/or take it from someone else by force. But it's kind of complicated
> because the feds take huge amounts of money, then give it back in
> different allocations to the states, so the state being bankrupt was at
> least as much the fault of the federal government as anyone here. The
> thieves were stealing from each other too hard.
>

Thanks, I think that I'll go back down the bunker now. :-)

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On Thu, 13 May 2010 18:26:17 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 13/05/2010 6:01 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> I think that that was Mervyn King the Governor of the Bank of England.
>>> >  And your wife is correct about being out of power for a generation.
>> Could be, that sounds familiar (I'd ask her, but she's off at a class
>> at the moment).
>>
> I looked it up. :-)

:-P

>> So there is a silver lining.:-)
>>
>>
> Maybe, We had 18 years of Tories then 13 years of Tories (New Labour)
> and the Lib Dems turn out to be Tories now :-(

Hehehehe, well, point.  Though I think the Lib Dems probably are being 
opportunistic on this (OK, no "probably" about it, they are).

>>>> >>  So if you're not a fan of the Tories, this is a really good
>>>> >>  thing.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
> I'm not a happy bunny ATM

Well, sure, for the short term it sucks.  Time for a game of wobbling 
bunnies. ;-)

>>I think the Lib Dems have played this quite well, 20
>> cabinet seats and a fair amount of deniability for policies the Tories
>> put in place.
> 
> Yeah politicians, not a principle between them.

Absolutely.  Well, there's one principle:  Get re-elected.

>> But I know that many in Scotland are apoplectic over the coalition. 
>> That can only help the SNP, right?  (I don't know enough about the SNP
>> to know if that's a good thing or not, but it*sounds*  like it is).
>>
>>
> Tartan Tories!

LOL

> OK that is what they were 40 years ago but it still riles them. :-D

I'll have to keep that in mind, especially if/when we move to Edinburgh.  
That'll help me wind my friend Tim up. ;-)

Jim

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On 13/05/2010 6:57 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:

> On Thu, 13 May 2010 18:26:17 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>> I'm not a happy bunny ATM
>
> Well, sure, for the short term it sucks.  Time for a game of wobbling
> bunnies. ;-)
>

OK but I don't have the time, so it is postponed.
It's Wabbit season.
Shoot a politician for Ascension Day.

>>> I think the Lib Dems have played this quite well, 20
>>> cabinet seats and a fair amount of deniability for policies the Tories
>>> put in place.
>>
>> Yeah politicians, not a principle between them.
>
> Absolutely.  Well, there's one principle:  Get re-elected.
>

That’s not a principle that’s religion. :-)

>
>> OK that is what they were 40 years ago but it still riles them. :-D
>
> I'll have to keep that in mind, especially if/when we move to Edinburgh.
> That'll help me wind my friend Tim up. ;-)
>

My pleasure :-D

And it’s when not if. Dr John was just saying to me last Friday that he 
would even travel up to Edinburg for an Anglo-American Povcon.


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On Thu, 13 May 2010 21:47:19 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 13/05/2010 6:57 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 18:26:17 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not a happy bunny ATM
>>
>> Well, sure, for the short term it sucks.  Time for a game of wobbling
>> bunnies. ;-)
>>
>>
> OK but I don't have the time, so it is postponed. It's Wabbit season.

Duck season! ;-)

> Shoot a politician for Ascension Day.

LOL

>>>> I think the Lib Dems have played this quite well, 20 cabinet seats
>>>> and a fair amount of deniability for policies the Tories put in
>>>> place.
>>>
>>> Yeah politicians, not a principle between them.
>>
>> Absolutely.  Well, there's one principle:  Get re-elected.
>>
>>
> That’s not a principle that’s religion. :-)

Well, for some people it is, I guess. ;-)

>>> OK that is what they were 40 years ago but it still riles them. :-D
>>
>> I'll have to keep that in mind, especially if/when we move to
>> Edinburgh. That'll help me wind my friend Tim up. ;-)
>>
>>
> My pleasure :-D
> 
> And it’s when not if. Dr John was just saying to me last Friday that he
> would even travel up to Edinburg for an Anglo-American Povcon.

That's good to know, even if we just make a trip over.  We were thinking 
later this summer, but airfare is pretty pricey. :-(

Jim

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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 13 May 2010 21:47:19 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>> OK but I don't have the time, so it is postponed. It's Wabbit season.
> 
> Duck season! ;-)

Wabbit season!

>> Shoot a politician for Ascension Day.
> 
> LOL

I approve.

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On Thu, 13 May 2010 22:32:21 -0300, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:

>> Duck season! ;-)
> 
> Wabbit season!

Duck season!

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