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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Swell.
Date: 9 Nov 2009 12:00:04
Message: <4af84a94$1@news.povray.org>
Stefan Viljoen wrote:
> *brrr* - I shiver at the thought of a mobile HDD as a backup device...

Why? If you have two copies, then crashing one doesn't affect the other.

> How do you feel about the statement that the fact that if a drive is mobile,
> inherently it will never last as long as a "traditional" statically mounted
> drive that just sites in a cradle internally in a climate controlled server
> rack / box?

Depends. Does the building with the servers in it burn down?

How long do you need it to last?

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Swell.
Date: 9 Nov 2009 12:02:27
Message: <4af84b23@news.povray.org>
Stefan Viljoen wrote:
> Hmm... well, no contest there. I guess there can be other factors involved
> besides on / off frequency then?

Google published a whitepaper with good statistics about this. As you might 
guess, they have excellent records and a sizeable number of disks.

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   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Swell.
Date: 9 Nov 2009 12:04:47
Message: <4af84baf$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Seems kinda unlikely though...

I've had cheap enclosures die on me.  If you really want to test, take the 
drive out and plug it into your desktop machine.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Swell.
Date: 9 Nov 2009 12:08:04
Message: <4af84c74$1@news.povray.org>
Stefan Viljoen wrote:
> Read a while ago that the RAF had to pay compensation to almost a hundred
> car owners - one of their air-defense "steerable-array" radars went haywire
> and scanned over a road - they burned out almost every vehicle's ignition
> and fuel injection microprocessors with the radar beam!

I occasionally hear a fighter jet come overhead and then hear my garage door 
opening. Happens about five times a year.  I live near Mirimar (aka "Top 
Gun"), so we get fighter jets overhead pretty regularly.  Many times a day 
where I was working across the road.

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   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Swell.
Date: 9 Nov 2009 12:24:48
Message: <4af85060$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible schrieb:
>>> Personally, I'd probably use SSD for my system partition (for the 
>>> faster booting) and use cheap spinning disk for my POV-Ray renders. ;-)
>>
>> How much storage capacity do you need for a Linux system partition?
>>
>> They fit /entire/ Linux installations on a single CD, so...
> 
> Ah yes, but under Windoze all programs insist on being installed on C: ;-)

... if you let them, yes :-P

But you're right, setting up a Windows system so that the system 
partition fits on a comparatively inexpensive SSD is still likely to be 
a major feat - and i wouldn't be all too surprised if Windows system 
partition size managed to keep up pace with the evolution of SSDs :-)


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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: Swell.
Date: 9 Nov 2009 14:14:07
Message: <4af869ff@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> I've had cheap enclosures die on me.  If you really want to test, take 
> the drive out and plug it into your desktop machine.

Like I maybe mentioned, it's an eSATA, so has a totally different 
connection and can't test it in desktop of housemate.

--
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.freesitespace.net


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Swell.
Date: 9 Nov 2009 14:23:23
Message: <4af86c2b$1@news.povray.org>
Tim Cook schrieb:

> Like I maybe mentioned, it's an eSATA, so has a totally different 
> connection and can't test it in desktop of housemate.

Nobody in reach with eSATA on their machine? Neighbors? Friends? Work 
colleagues?


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Swell.
Date: 9 Nov 2009 14:33:07
Message: <4af86e73@news.povray.org>
Tim Cook <z99### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Have ordered a new one, which will arrive in two or so days.

  Unrelated, but I have been starting to wonder about that.

  Here if I want to buy a piece of hardware, I go to the store and buy it.
That's it.

  However, I have seen tons and tons of people use that exact expression,
ie. "ordered <piece of hardware>, will arrive in <some amount of> days".

  Is this somehow different there (wherever it might be)? Is it that there
aren't any computer hardware stores nearby and you have to buy them
remotely and get them by mail or something? Or is it that stores don't
have hardware in stock, they just order them on demand?

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Swell.
Date: 9 Nov 2009 14:52:20
Message: <4af872f4$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:33:07 -0500, Warp wrote:

>   Is this somehow different there (wherever it might be)? Is it that
>   there
> aren't any computer hardware stores nearby and you have to buy them
> remotely and get them by mail or something? Or is it that stores don't
> have hardware in stock, they just order them on demand?

It's generally cheaper in the US at least to buy online.  Many places 
waive shipping charges for "basic" shipping over a certain amount and 
don't charge sales tax if they're out of state.

Jim


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Swell.
Date: 9 Nov 2009 14:54:45
Message: <4af87385$1@news.povray.org>
Warp schrieb:
> 
>   Unrelated, but I have been starting to wonder about that.
> 
>   Here if I want to buy a piece of hardware, I go to the store and buy it.
> That's it.
> 
>   However, I have seen tons and tons of people use that exact expression,
> ie. "ordered <piece of hardware>, will arrive in <some amount of> days".
> 
>   Is this somehow different there (wherever it might be)? Is it that there
> aren't any computer hardware stores nearby and you have to buy them
> remotely and get them by mail or something? Or is it that stores don't
> have hardware in stock, they just order them on demand?

I guess it depends on how picky you are.

If all you want is "a new 2TB hard drive", go out and get it.

If you want a Seagate ST-FOO-23XUELX32-B, and no, the other brand's 
equivalent won't do, then you'll probably need to wait.

It also probably depends on whether you want the cheapest, in which case 
you'll probably end up buying on the internet, at some company that 
doesn't have to pay people to personally greet, help and/or keep an eye 
on you.


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