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I was looking for a 64-bit Linux live cd (or dvd) - a dvd bootable linux
that can access my windows ntfs volumes but does not make any changes to hdd
(like, e.g, repartition the disk).
Something like knoppix but for 64-bit intel pc. I'd like to try some 64-bit
Linux programs vs. 32 bit Windows XP.
Now, is the opensuse 11 live cd what I am looking for? Or does one have to
boot from live-cd and then install linux?
Then, with opensuse there seems to be a problem with changes to BIOS. If it
is just the bios date-time that is changed - no problem. But if the cd
should manipulate the frequency/timings of cpu and memory - ouch! I cannot
imagine it does, but safe is safe, so I'll ask here before I have to go
hunting for the reset-bios jumper ;-)
Has anybody here experience with the live-cd?
http://www.marco.isrelated.com/?p=67
Since I am not much into linux I'd appreciate any help / suggestions.
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You could use the Ubuntu 64 live CD.
It will automatically mount all your partitions, in case of NTFS I think read
only.
If it's a live CD you won't need to install anything.
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TC wrote:
> Has anybody here experience with the live-cd?
I have used the livecd of both opensuse10, opensuse11x86 and opensuse11x64.
Never had a problem, didn't change disks or bios (at least not
irreversably). No problems going back to Windows after.
Ubuntu also comes with a version that will install into a file on your C:
drive, so it's a full-blown installed Linux without repartitioning your
drive in any way. Uninstall consists of deleting c:\ubuntu and taking the
option out of boot.ini, or something equally trivial.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".
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> Ubuntu also comes with a version that will install into a file on your C:
> drive, so it's a full-blown installed Linux without repartitioning your
> drive in any way. Uninstall consists of deleting c:\ubuntu and taking the
> option out of boot.ini, or something equally trivial.
Thank you, Darren. I will try this. Sounds exactly like the thing I am
looking for.
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TC wrote:
> Thank you, Darren. I will try this. Sounds exactly like the thing I am
> looking for.
You and lots of others. Hence the option. :-)
It used to be called "Lindows" a couple years ago until MS sued them (or
threatened to) for trademark violation. Now Ubuntu took over the idea and
made it an official part of their distributions.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".
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On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:04:11 +0100, TC wrote:
> I was looking for a 64-bit Linux live cd (or dvd) - a dvd bootable linux
> that can access my windows ntfs volumes but does not make any changes to
> hdd (like, e.g, repartition the disk).
>
> Something like knoppix but for 64-bit intel pc. I'd like to try some
> 64-bit Linux programs vs. 32 bit Windows XP.
>
> Now, is the opensuse 11 live cd what I am looking for? Or does one have
> to boot from live-cd and then install linux?
>
> Then, with opensuse there seems to be a problem with changes to BIOS. If
> it is just the bios date-time that is changed - no problem. But if the
> cd should manipulate the frequency/timings of cpu and memory - ouch! I
> cannot imagine it does, but safe is safe, so I'll ask here before I have
> to go hunting for the reset-bios jumper ;-)
>
> Has anybody here experience with the live-cd?
>
> http://www.marco.isrelated.com/?p=67
>
> Since I am not much into linux I'd appreciate any help / suggestions.
openSUSE 11.1 and 11.2 RC (which is in final testing now) should include
ntfs-3g, so should be able to mount the NTFS partitions without a problem.
I'm not aware of the Live media doing anything to fiddle with BIOSes -
would be too many permutations and versions of bioses to get it right
enough of the time to make it worthwhile.
With the live media, everything runs of the media - no need to perform an
installation. The media is primarily to permit a user wanting to "test
drive" Linux to see some of the features/functionality and to ensure
system compatibility prior to installation.
Jim (openSUSE Forums Moderator & Novell employee)
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TC <do-not-reply@i-do get-enough-spam-already-2498.com> wrote:
> Then, with opensuse there seems to be a problem with changes to BIOS. If it
> is just the bios date-time that is changed - no problem. But if the cd
> should manipulate the frequency/timings of cpu and memory - ouch! I cannot
> imagine it does, but safe is safe, so I'll ask here before I have to go
> hunting for the reset-bios jumper ;-)
I don't understand why linux would modify the frequency/timings of cpu and
memory, and even if it did, why it would have to modify BIOS to do that.
(What good would it do to modify BIOS anyways? It would have to re-boot in
order for the changes to become effective. BIOS is not something which is
constantly running in the background. It just sets up the hardware and starts
the OS and that's it.)
--
- Warp
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> I don't understand why linux would modify the frequency/timings of cpu
> and
> memory, and even if it did, why it would have to modify BIOS to do that.
> (What good would it do to modify BIOS anyways? It would have to re-boot in
> order for the changes to become effective. BIOS is not something which is
> constantly running in the background. It just sets up the hardware and
> starts
> the OS and that's it.)
I thought this to be so, too. I was astonished to see that people seem to
have had some problems with this.
And I was not sure if this is true or not, so I asked.
BTW:
I did try the Ubuntu Live CD and it did reset my computer's clock to either
daylight saving time or universal time - both -1:00, so I cannot be sure
which.
This is no real problem, though, merely a very minor annoyance. Still, this
should not be.
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TC wrote:
> I did try the Ubuntu Live CD and it did reset my computer's clock to either
> daylight saving time or universal time - both -1:00, so I cannot be sure
> which.
>
> This is no real problem, though, merely a very minor annoyance. Still, this
> should not be.
The Linux Way(tm) seems to be to set the system clock to UTC and compute
local time from that depending on your timezone configuration. (Which,
on a live CD, is probably not set right anyway.) The Windows Way(tm) is
to set the system clock to local time...
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Warp schrieb:
> I don't understand why linux would modify the frequency/timings of cpu and
> memory, and even if it did, why it would have to modify BIOS to do that.
> (What good would it do to modify BIOS anyways? It would have to re-boot in
> order for the changes to become effective. BIOS is not something which is
> constantly running in the background. It just sets up the hardware and starts
> the OS and that's it.)
Well, /nowadays/ that's how it is. Used to be different in DOS times.
Then again, that's quite a long time ago...
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