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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Geek fail
Date: 27 Oct 2009 12:20:01
Message: <4ae71db1$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Chambers wrote:
>> Because the major selling points are style and a sense of superiority?
> 
> While true, that's not really the only advantage Apples have.

A sense of superiority is an advantage?

Damn, why aren't more people using Lisp then? :-P


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Geek fail
Date: 27 Oct 2009 12:22:05
Message: <4ae71e2d@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> serious broadcast-quality kit to do that job at desktop resolutions and 
> frame rates.

Many cards for recording video have hardware chips to assist the h264 
process. That's how they records TV with like 2% CPU usage for compression.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Geek fail
Date: 27 Oct 2009 21:49:55
Message: <4ae7a343$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Chambers wrote:
>> Because the major selling points are style and a sense of superiority?
> 
> While true, that's not really the only advantage Apples have.
> 

I said "major selling points," not "only selling points"?

...Chambers


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Geek fail
Date: 28 Oct 2009 02:27:37
Message: <4ae7e459$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Actually, what *might* be useful is if I could hook up my computer to 
> another computer and record its output. (There are programs which are 
> supposed to record what's on your screen, but none of them actually 
> work.) I have no idea what kind of equipment you need to record a DVI 
> signal though...

Cost me $15, including shipping.  I got a pretty good deal, though; I 
think these usually go for $20 +shipping.

If you want one that will decrypt digital cable, then it costs about 
$250-$300.  That's probably because there's only one on the market at 
the moment (it has to accept a CableCard, a standard set by a consortium 
of US Cable companies).

However, there are others that can accept digital cable signals that 
aren't scrambled on the market for about $50.

Oh, and most of these cards do hardware MPEG encoding, so if you ask 
Media Center to record something, it doesn't eat very many CPU cycles.

...Chambers


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Geek fail
Date: 28 Oct 2009 02:29:21
Message: <4ae7e4c1$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Actually, what *might* be useful is if I could hook up my computer to 
> another computer and record its output. (There are programs which are 
> supposed to record what's on your screen, but none of them actually 
> work.) I have no idea what kind of equipment you need to record a DVI 
> signal though...

Look up Hauppage.  They've got HDMI capture cards.

...Chambers


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Geek fail
Date: 28 Oct 2009 02:34:19
Message: <4ae7e5eb$1@news.povray.org>
Chambers wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> Chambers wrote:
>>> Because the major selling points are style and a sense of superiority?
>>
>> While true, that's not really the only advantage Apples have.
>>
> 
> I said "major selling points," not "only selling points"?
> 
> ...Chambers

Besides, style is something that actually can be worth paying for. 
Otherwise, nobody would buy a Porsche.

OK, that's not quite true; Porsche's have style *and* performance.  Now 
that Apple has switched to standard PC components, it's really easy to 
build a system that's equivalent but costs less, meaning the Macs only 
have style.

I think I'm rambling; I probably need some sleep ;)

...Chambers


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Geek fail
Date: 28 Oct 2009 11:03:02
Message: <4ae85d26$1@news.povray.org>
Chambers wrote:
> Look up Hauppage.  They've got HDMI capture cards.

Make sure you buy it from someplace you can return it to. I went through 
three before I just gave up.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Geek fail
Date: 29 Oct 2009 01:33:23
Message: <4ae92923$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Chambers wrote:
>> Look up Hauppage.  They've got HDMI capture cards.
> 
> Make sure you buy it from someplace you can return it to. I went through 
> three before I just gave up.
> 

Was it faulty cards, buggy software, or simply a case of them not quite 
doing what you thought they did?

...Chambers


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Geek fail
Date: 29 Oct 2009 11:26:47
Message: <4ae9b437$1@news.povray.org>
Chambers wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> Chambers wrote:
>>> Look up Hauppage.  They've got HDMI capture cards.
>>
>> Make sure you buy it from someplace you can return it to. I went 
>> through three before I just gave up.
>>
> 
> Was it faulty cards, buggy software, or simply a case of them not quite 
> doing what you thought they did?

Hard to say. The whole ecosystem is still a mess, really.

The first one would see the HDTV channels, but only with its own software. 
If I gave it to media center, it would see either SDTV or HDTV but wouldn't 
switch between.

The second actually came with a media center remote and said it works with 
media center, but would only pick up HDTV sometimes and SDTV never, and 
since half my channels are SDTV that was no good. Each time I tried 
installing it, something different would happen.

The third claimed it works with x64 but didn't actually have any drivers 
available, and I'm not about to start futzing with the registry to turn off 
driver signing to support a capture card.

I suspect part of the problem is that none of the cards out there are really 
ready to (a) talk to Vista media center and (b) deal with unencrypted HDTV 
over cable. Probably if I was using an antenna it might have worked better.

I understand the Win7 MC software is much better with HD tuners, tho. Maybe 
when I upgrade...

For now, everything I get HD I also get SD, so I can still record stuff if I 
want.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Cosmic
Subject: Re: Geek fail
Date: 31 Oct 2009 23:35:01
Message: <web.4aed0067ac2c4873e28bc6690@news.povray.org>
Back in the days of rotary dial phones, I called a friend to help with a
computer problem. I set the phone in my lap while we worked and we got the
problem solved and hung up. Forgetting all about the phone in my lap, I
continued with my project. The phone rang, and I grabbed it immediately, out of
habit.
Unfortunately I grabbed it so fast I smashed myself in the face with it, almost
giving myself a black eye...


And speaking of geek fail, it took me three tries to post this...


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