"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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> Interesting. So it's installed but just not listed? Is there a scientific 
> way to confirm this?
>

Look in Control Panel under Administrative Tools. If you have any of the 
.NET frameworks installed, there should be an icon (or more) for it there. 
IIRC, the only thing you'll see in Add/Remove programs is the service packs, 
if any, that you have installed for the frameworks.

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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:46:08 +0200, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
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> Interesting. So it's installed but just not listed? Is there a  
> scientific way to confirm this?

Check your "Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework" folder (and "Framework64" if  
applicable). Each installed .NET version has its own subfolder there.

Alternatively, just run Windows Update and see which ones you have not yet  
installed.



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> I'm pretty sure this is incorrect too. The Windows Update server had to 
> install SP3, reboot the PC and then install the .NET framework - which 
> doesn't like a lot of sense if SP3 *includes* it.

Oh ok, I don't remember so I might be wrong, I thought I read that from XP 
SP2 onwards .net was included.  Might the SP install just have deferred the 
installation of .net until after the reboot?

> Yes, I expect Vista usage to increase over time. (Or will it? Maybe 
> everybody will just move to Windows 7?)

I assume Windows 7 will include .net, so the % of machines with .net 
installed should continue to rise.

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>> I'm pretty sure this is incorrect too. The Windows Update server had 
>> to install SP3, reboot the PC and then install the .NET framework - 
>> which doesn't like a lot of sense if SP3 *includes* it.
> 
> Oh ok, I don't remember so I might be wrong, I thought I read that from 
> XP SP2 onwards .net was included.  Might the SP install just have 
> deferred the installation of .net until after the reboot?

Nope. I sometimes have to do this manually if WUS doesn't work for some 
reason, and just installing SP3 is insufficient. No amount of rebooting 
helps. You have to also manually install the .NET framework, which is a 
seperate [240 MB] download.

>> Yes, I expect Vista usage to increase over time. (Or will it? Maybe 
>> everybody will just move to Windows 7?)
> 
> I assume Windows 7 will include .net, so the % of machines with .net 
> installed should continue to rise.

Oh, sure. I meant will Windows Vista continue to increase once Windows 7 
is out. ;-)

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> Oh, sure. I meant will Windows Vista continue to increase once Windows 7 
> is out. ;-)

Probably, for a while.  Especially in large companies there is always a big 
delay between a new OS being released and that OS starting to be used.  From 
my experience a lot of places are starting to roll out Vista on new 
machines, I suspect that trend will continue for at least another year or so 
until they have tested Windows 7 sufficiently.

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scott wrote:
>> Oh, sure. I meant will Windows Vista continue to increase once Windows 
>> 7 is out. ;-)
> 
> Probably, for a while.  Especially in large companies there is always a 
> big delay between a new OS being released and that OS starting to be 
> used.  From my experience a lot of places are starting to roll out Vista 
> on new machines, I suspect that trend will continue for at least another 
> year or so until they have tested Windows 7 sufficiently.

Certainly the company I work for has vowed to not even touch Vista. They 
were going to wait 3 years, but not I think they're looking at going 
straight to Windows 7.

Weird really. As soon as a new server OS comes out, they can't install 
it fast enough. But desktop OS, they tend to wait until it's a few years 
old before even testing it.

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