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From: Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay
Subject: Re: My chickens and the cost of cheap food
Date: 7 Oct 2009 13:51:17
Message: <4accd515@news.povray.org>
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"Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospam com> wrote in message
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> Where were you located again? :-)
Mid-Michigan, north of Lansing. Saint Johns area, to be more precise.
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>> Where were you located again? :-)
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> Mid-Michigan, north of Lansing. Saint Johns area, to be more precise.
Ooo, viral advertising. Clever...
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:01:17 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
>Well, I don't know. I'm not convinced that one slab of chicken breast
>tastes any different to another. Then again, if I cook a chicken breast,
>I usually fry it and then dust it with pepper and paprika, so what do I
>know?
A few years ago when I moved to an area of London that has a large
"Iranian/Iraqi" population. I started buying Halal meat including chicken. What
a difference in taste (just like the meat I remember from before battery
production) :D When you cook it you can see very little water that comes out of
the chicken. Unfortunately it is quite a poor area and the choice of meat cuts
is not very good but they are very tasty.
Well done Jeremy.
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Stephen
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: My chickens and the cost of cheap food
Date: 7 Oct 2009 15:44:13
Message: <4accef8d@news.povray.org>
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:55:33 -0400, Jeremy \"UncleHoot\" Praay wrote:
> "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospam com> wrote in message
> news:4acccd31$1@news.povray.org...
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>> Where were you located again? :-)
>
> Mid-Michigan, north of Lansing. Saint Johns area, to be more precise.
Not near enough, then, but in the same country. If I happened to be in
your area, I'd be interested in trying some of your chicken. :-)
Jim
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From: Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay
Subject: Re: My chickens and the cost of cheap food
Date: 7 Oct 2009 16:49:40
Message: <4accfee4@news.povray.org>
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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] dev null> wrote in message
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>>> Where were you located again? :-)
>>
>> Mid-Michigan, north of Lansing. Saint Johns area, to be more precise.
>
> Ooo, viral advertising. Clever...
>
I don't foresee any problems with shipping meat overseas... Do you? ;-)
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Darren New wrote:
> It's especially apparent (to me) in the fruits and vegetables, all of
> which taste essentially identical. Apples are cardboard here.
>
And store bought tomatoes suck! I wont eat them raw.
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Congatulations on raising 300 birds!
We just raised 100. We don't sell the meat. We eat it :)
We sell eggs. Brown eggs.
Half of our birds end up as fried chicken.(we buy mixed hens & roosters)
I've been raising chickens off and on for 15 years. I don't let them
run, where I live (the woods in Missouri) there are to many critters.
I have never had the chance to eat one of the hens after their laying
days are done, a racoon usaly gets them first.
A friend of mine had 40 or so Reds (I grow Bar Rocks)and she's tring to
raise them free range style. She's down to 20.
You mention the finances of growing chickens. I never did make a big
profit, even selling eggs for two years and counting what we would spend
for the meat of the ones we butchered. This year we already spent over
$600 and they are just started laying.(got 4 eggs)
How much did you pay for your chicks? We paid $1.25 each. I'm
seriously thinking of hatching my own. All I need is an incubator and 23
days or so of electric. If you let a hen set on them then you have to be
real brave and quick to get those chicks from that mother hen :O
Have Fun!
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"Jeremy \"UncleHoot\" Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftware cmo> wrote:
> Since I started raising and selling chickens, I've become more and more
> aware of the so-called "industrial food system" in the U.S.
Once was driving on the state highway through rural southeast Virginia. There
was a detour. We had to make a 2-mile jog at 5 MPH through some barely-paved
roads. We came across this one establishment.
There were a few buildings that were painted the most depressing shade of gray.
Everything looked like a movie set for concentration camp barracks. Eventually
it dawned on me that I was on a FARM. And that these were probably makeshift
residences for migrant farmworkers who weren't there now. The whole "graphic
design" of the place had a look and feel of trying to be as unwelcoming as
possible.
Anyway, I often wonder what the people there are like. It would be interesting
to know what kind of stories would be told by religious clergy meet with the
people who lived. It would be interesting to hear what kind of philosophical
chats the owner would have at his local club.
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What is this "chicken" stuff? Is it similar to Meat™?
-Mike
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From: Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay
Subject: Re: My chickens and the cost of cheap food
Date: 8 Oct 2009 08:51:38
Message: <4acde05a$1@news.povray.org>
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"Leroy Whetstone" <lrw### [at] joplin com> wrote in message
news:4AC### [at] joplin com...
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> Congatulations on raising 300 birds!
>
> We just raised 100. We don't sell the meat. We eat it :)
> We sell eggs. Brown eggs.
> Half of our birds end up as fried chicken.(we buy mixed hens & roosters)
> I've been raising chickens off and on for 15 years. I don't let them run,
> where I live (the woods in Missouri) there are to many critters.
> I have never had the chance to eat one of the hens after their laying
> days are done, a racoon usaly gets them first.
I've become complacent in that regard. Even the neighborhood dogs rarely
show up in our yard anymore. I just hope that if something bad does happen
(and it will eventually), that it doesn't completely wipe them out. I've
read that dogs will occasionally do that.
> A friend of mine had 40 or so Reds (I grow Bar Rocks)and she's tring to
> raise them free range style. She's down to 20.
In addion to the meat chickens, we have 14 hens and a couple banty roosters.
I tried to get a variety of egg colors ranging from brown to light-brown to
white to green. It's fun to put them in the carton and see a rainbow of egg
colors. :-)
> You mention the finances of growing chickens. I never did make a big
> profit, even selling eggs for two years and counting what we would spend
> for the meat of the ones we butchered. This year we already spent over
> $600 and they are just started laying.(got 4 eggs)
I can't seem to make money selling eggs. There are too many other people
doing the same thing in my area. So, we just try to sell the extras and
consider it a hobby.
> How much did you pay for your chicks? We paid $1.25 each. I'm seriously
> thinking of hatching my own. All I need is an incubator and 23 days or so
> of electric. If you let a hen set on them then you have to be real brave
> and quick to get those chicks from that mother hen :O
>
> Have Fun!
This last batch, I bought 150 from www.jmhatchery.com for around $1.20 each,
including shipping. They're not your standard cornish cross meat chicken.
Most of the time, I try to buy from my local hatchery (around $1.25
shipped), or from the farm store in the spring, which sells them for 99
cents each.
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