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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [ANSWER KEY]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 05:10:13
Message: <4acc5af5$1@news.povray.org>
Ok, here are the answers!  In some cases I've linked to a higher 
resolution image than the 64x64 block was extracted from.





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#1 - Christoph Hormann - The Eye
http://hof.povray.org/images/the_eye.jpg

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#2 - Nathan G B O'Brien - Arch
http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/old-competition/competition-Oct-95/arch.jpg

Entrant in the October 1995 IRTC (theme: architecture) and an old 
favorite of mine from back in the day.  This is clearly one of the 
tricky ones, probably too tricky in retrospect.

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#3 - Jean-Marie Haerens and Fabien Mosen - Roger, Gary, and Bob
http://hof.povray.org/images/3b.jpg

July-August 1998 IRTC Winner (theme: Elements)

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#4 - Gilles Tran - The Wet Bird
http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/mouille.jpg

March-April 2001 IRTC Winner, in addition to possibly being the 
best-known povray image ever.

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#5 - H.E. Day - Drunk Patrol
http://hof.povray.org/images/8b.jpg

Came in second in the March-April 2000 IRTC (theme: The City)

H.E. Day had the bad luck of submitting this image to the same round of 
the IRTC that Gilles Tran's Wet Bird image was submitted to. 
Competition was rather stiff that round.  Another nice image of his was 
edged out *again* by Gilles Tran in the March-April 2001 round.  In fact 
#20 on this list (not by Gilles Tran this time) had previously knocked 
him into second place in the November-December 1998 round.  I don't 
think he ever won the IRTC, which is quite a shame since he has some of 
the most memorable povray images out there -- just bad timing on which 
rounds to compete in I suppose.

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#6 - Mark Slone - Innocent Shadow
http://hof.povray.org/images/ishadow.jpg

November-December 2002 IRTC winner (theme: Frozen Moment)

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#7 - Mick Hazelgrove - The Preacher
http://hof.povray.org/images/4b.jpg

January-February 2001 IRTC winner (theme: Worship)

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#8 - Gilles Tran - The Construction Workers
http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/creation.jpg

I couldn't find a place to cut the snipped that made this anything other 
than nearly impossible, but I included it anyway since I knew a 
backstory for it and, hey, you can't have them all be easy.

Backstory: My memory is a bit hazy here, but I *think* this is the 
correct story behind this image.  Back in the day 'Uncle' Ken Tyler used 
to respond to posts so quickly at seemingly any time of day or night 
that people eventually began to figure that he had to be some sort of 
cyborg of full-on AI to achieve it.  After his birthday an initial draft 
of this image was made to symbolize the construction of the Ken Tyler AI.

I believe we knew when his birthday was because we actually kept a list 
of the birthdays of the most active Pov users -- pretty cool!

EDIT:  Looks like my memory served me well, here's the original thread:
http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/thread/%3C371E0BC9.2F8F1927@inapg.inra.fr%3E/

By pure coincidence this happened just one day before Nicholas 
DePetrillo posted the infamous "AWSOME ROLEX" image to the same 
newsgroup (see #10).

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#9 - Douglas Eichenberg - Victoria's World
http://hof.povray.org/images/victoria.jpg

Tied for 4th in POVCOMP 2004, one of my personal favorites.

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#10 - Nicholas DePetrillo (self attributed) - AWSOME ROLEX WATCH!
http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/attachment/%3C371e9151.0@news.povray.org%3E/rolexfr.jpg

Backstory:  Ok, I lied a bit, only 19 of those images were made with 
povray.  Nicholas DePetrillo posted this image which he claimed to have 
made in a rather irritating post consisting of far too many mispelled 
words and capital letters.  This was a few days after he posted some 
renderings of an ocean which he seemed very reluctant to give details on 
the creation of other than that they involved a lot of very complicated 
math.

It didn't take too long for people to find proof that he'd stolen both 
of these from other websites and neither was made with povray.  Ever 
since the phrase "AWSOME ROLEX" has come to mean an image which wasn't 
actually created with povray, despite the claims of the author.

You can read the original thread here:
http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/thread/%3C371e9151.0@news.povray.org%3E/

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#11 - Jaime Vives Piqueres - Always Running, Never the Same
http://oz.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/1998-10-31/running.jpg

September-October 1998 IRTC Winner.  It's also served as the povray 
splash screen.

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#12 - Gilles Tran - The Big Fight
http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/joute_1993.jpg

A very early Gilles Tran piece from 1993.  He also did a remake of this 
picture in 2001:

http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/joute_2001.jpg

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#13 - Norbert Kern - Boreal
http://hof.povray.org/images/Boreal_big.jpg

The bird in the picture is subtle, but IIRC it's the only use of red in 
the whole image.

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#14 - Sean Day - Natural History Museum
http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2004-12-31/nhm.jpg

November-December 2004 IRTC technical merit honorable mention (theme: 
Museum)

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#15 - Samuel Benge - Techno Garb
http://hof.povray.org/images/800x600/c_a_large.jpg

Modeled using a cellular automaton.

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#16 - Johnny Yip - The Last Guardian
http://hof.povray.org/images/guardian.jpg

Special award: Won first place in POVCOMP 2004, and Johnny Yip for a 
very sweet workstation worth $10,000 for it.

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#17 - Gilles Tran - The Cubicle Workers
http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/comptoir.jpg

One of my old favorite Gilles Tran pieces, from 1997.

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#18 - Jamie McCarter - Night Club Gallimimus' Warming Up
http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/old-competition/competition-Feb-95/jmwarmup.jpg

Winner of the February 1995 IRTC (theme: music)

I love this quote from the associated text file:

"After creating the entire scene I gave it to PoV to render.  Then, 
after 5 minutes of parsing, I found my 16 megs of ram wasn't enough.  So 
I created a 20 meg swap file, and ended up running out of memory again. 
  So I upped it to 50 megs.  I then ran out of symbols.  So I upped 
those.  I then ran out of #declares.  Unfortunately, PoV v2.2 doesn't 
allow this to be increased, so I had to manually optimize all 3 megs of 
the data file, carefully rearranging the data to remove the declares! 
(programmers: hint here for a nifty little utility.  Write me.)  Once I 
had worked out the declare problem I gave the data to PoV and sat back 
for more than 5 days while it rendered. (Yes, I do have bounding boxes 
intelligently placed)"

Makes me appreciate how comparatively awesomely powerful computers are 
these days.

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#19 - Rob Strickland - Chain Reaction
http://oz.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/1997-06-30/chainrea.jpg

May-June 1997 IRTC winner (theme: Physics & Math)

I believe he had to hack motion blur into Povray just for this image.

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#20 - N.B. and Glenn McCarter - First Strike at Pearl Harbor
http://hof.povray.org/images/7b.jpg

November-December 1998 IRTC winner (theme: First Encounter)


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [ANSWER KEY]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 05:25:58
Message: <4acc5ea6$1@news.povray.org>
> #1 - Christoph Hormann - The Eye
> http://hof.povray.org/images/the_eye.jpg

Never seen it.

> #2 - Nathan G B O'Brien - Arch
> http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/old-competition/competition-Oct-95/arch.jpg

Never seen it.

> #3 - Jean-Marie Haerens and Fabien Mosen - Roger, Gary, and Bob
> http://hof.povray.org/images/3b.jpg

Never seen it.

> #4 - Gilles Tran - The Wet Bird
> http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/mouille.jpg
> 
> March-April 2001 IRTC Winner, in addition to possibly being the 
> best-known povray image ever.

Failed miserably to recognise it, despite expecting it to be present 
somewhere. (As I say, the colours looked wrong, and several other 
details seemed incorrect.)

> #5 - H.E. Day - Drunk Patrol
> http://hof.povray.org/images/8b.jpg

I remember this one well; just not the particular detail you cropped out.

> #6 - Mark Slone - Innocent Shadow
> http://hof.povray.org/images/ishadow.jpg

Never seen it.

> #7 - Mick Hazelgrove - The Preacher
> http://hof.povray.org/images/4b.jpg

Only seen it briefly - not well enough to really remember.

> #8 - Gilles Tran - The Construction Workers
> http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/creation.jpg

Interesting how cropping it makes it look like the worker is facing the 
other way...

> #9 - Douglas Eichenberg - Victoria's World
> http://hof.povray.org/images/victoria.jpg

Never seen this - which is surprising, because it's really damned good.

> #10 - Nicholas DePetrillo (self attributed) - AWSOME ROLEX WATCH!
>
http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/attachment/%3C371e9151.0@news.povray.org%3E/rolexfr.jpg


Never seen it.

> Ever 
> since the phrase "AWSOME ROLEX" has come to mean an image which wasn't 
> actually created with povray, despite the claims of the author.

I never knew that...

> #11 - Jaime Vives Piqueres - Always Running, Never the Same
> http://oz.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/1998-10-31/running.jpg
> 
> September-October 1998 IRTC Winner.  It's also served as the povray 
> splash screen.

I recognised this. :-D

> #12 - Gilles Tran - The Big Fight
> http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/joute_1993.jpg

Never seen it.

> #13 - Norbert Kern - Boreal
> http://hof.povray.org/images/Boreal_big.jpg

Now I'm puzzled. The (very grainy) image clearly contains red, yet I 
can't find any red anywhere in the source image.

> #14 - Sean Day - Natural History Museum
> http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2004-12-31/nhm.jpg

I was right!

> #15 - Samuel Benge - Techno Garb
> http://hof.povray.org/images/800x600/c_a_large.jpg

And again. :-D

> #16 - Johnny Yip - The Last Guardian
> http://hof.povray.org/images/guardian.jpg

And that's a hatrick.

> #17 - Gilles Tran - The Cubicle Workers
> http://www.oyonale.com/images/3D/comptoir.jpg

Mmm, I'd forgotten about this one...

> #18 - Jamie McCarter - Night Club Gallimimus' Warming Up
> http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/old-competition/competition-Feb-95/jmwarmup.jpg

Never seen it.

> #19 - Rob Strickland - Chain Reaction
> http://oz.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/1997-06-30/chainrea.jpg

Never seen it.

> #20 - N.B. and Glenn McCarter - First Strike at Pearl Harbor
> http://hof.povray.org/images/7b.jpg

I had a feeling this might be it. I should have written that down...


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 11:27:19
Message: <4accb357$1@news.povray.org>
Reminds me of "Eyeball Benders" from Games magazine.

http://home.comcast.net/~rawieland4/5MinuteBof/EyeballBenders/eyeballbender.html


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 11:31:28
Message: <4accb450$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Reminds me of "Eyeball Benders" from Games magazine.
> 
> http://home.comcast.net/~rawieland4/5MinuteBof/EyeballBenders/eyeballbender.html 

I clearly lack the necessary domain knowledge for this one.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 11:46:23
Message: <4accb7cf$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> Reminds me of "Eyeball Benders" from Games magazine.
>>
>> http://home.comcast.net/~rawieland4/5MinuteBof/EyeballBenders/eyeballbender.html 
> 
> 
> I clearly lack the necessary domain knowledge for this one.

That particular set seemed to all be games.

My favorites were the extreme close-up of the little red triangle at the top 
of the dial on a master lock (like you looked at every day of school and 
still didn't recognise) and the cut-out of the bike spokes that showed no 
hub or rim, but had that distinctive criss-cross pattern.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 12:03:50
Message: <4accbbe6$1@news.povray.org>
>> I clearly lack the necessary domain knowledge for this one.
> 
> That particular set seemed to all be games.

Indeed. Which I don't play.

> My favorites were the extreme close-up of the little red triangle at the 
> top of the dial on a master lock (like you looked at every day of school 
> and still didn't recognise)

...???

> and the cut-out of the bike spokes that 
> showed no hub or rim, but had that distinctive criss-cross pattern.

I'd probably get that one.

Would you recognise the *sound* those spokes make when plucked? Of 
course, today I understand that the sniffness of the rods causes them to 
resist being bend, which adds a 2nd-order dx/dt term to the transfer 
function of the system, which introduces dispersion, which changes the 
resonant frequencies of the system such that they are no longer 
harmonically related... but when I was 9, I just used to like twanging 
the spokes.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 12:06:50
Message: <4accbc9a$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
>> My favorites were the extreme close-up of the little red triangle at 
>> the top of the dial on a master lock (like you looked at every day of 
>> school and still didn't recognise)
> 
> ...???

In the USA, kids get lockers to store their books and such in between 
classes. They locked with a Master lock.

Oh wow.

http://www.masterlock.com/school/

An entire page just about locks for school lockers.

> I'd probably get that one.

It's surprisingly difficult to look at it. You *know* you've seen it, and 
you have to think "where is that *from*."

> Would you recognise the *sound* those spokes make when plucked? 

No.

> course, today I understand that the sniffness of the rods causes them to 
> resist being bend, which adds a 2nd-order dx/dt term to the transfer 
> function of the system, which introduces dispersion, which changes the 
> resonant frequencies of the system such that they are no longer 
> harmonically related... but when I was 9, I just used to like twanging 
> the spokes.

And what makes you think you're stupid again?

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [ANSWER KEY]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 13:11:33
Message: <4acccbc5@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> > #1 - Christoph Hormann - The Eye
> > http://hof.povray.org/images/the_eye.jpg

> Never seen it.

  You have never browsed through the Hall of Fame?-o

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [ANSWER KEY]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 14:21:01
Message: <4accdc0d@news.povray.org>
>>> #1 - Christoph Hormann - The Eye
>>> http://hof.povray.org/images/the_eye.jpg
> 
>> Never seen it.
> 
>   You have never browsed through the Hall of Fame?-o

Yep.

I distinctly recall there being a scene somewhat like this, but by the 
ocean. But I don't remember this one.

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: 4096 pixel challenge! [image attached]
Date: 7 Oct 2009 14:22:36
Message: <4accdc6c$1@news.povray.org>
> In the USA, kids get lockers to store their books and such in between 
> classes. They locked with a Master lock.

Oh, right. I didn't know that. Suddenly several hundred movies scenes 
make significantly more sense...

>> course, today I understand that the sniffness of the rods causes them 
>> to resist being bend, which adds a 2nd-order dx/dt term to the 
>> transfer function of the system, which introduces dispersion, which 
>> changes the resonant frequencies of the system such that they are no 
>> longer harmonically related... but when I was 9, I just used to like 
>> twanging the spokes.
> 
> And what makes you think you're stupid again?

...I have a wet passenger seat?

It seems I fall into the same trap as DJ. Very good with abstract 
mathematics. Hopeless with The Real World. :-(

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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